“You Are What You Listen To“
A few years back, Psychology Today used this title to discuss in an article, the lack of research on the type of music people prefer and its effect on their mood. And to basically confirm that people who like metal are not much different than the ones who like classical music.
Even if there is a lot of research on music therapy, there is not much research done on music in general. Considering that people usually rate the importance of music in their life as very high, you would think that it would be a research of choice.
But people often love several styles of music, so it makes them versatile in actions and choices. And the rare cases of violent people who love metal are not proof that the music had an influence on them. It could simply show that some people with mental illnesses like intense music because of their inner turmoil or for no significant reason at all.
When you consider that millions of people love Metallica, it sure does not mean that they all have a violent tendency.
The magazine TSS came up with an article more recently about a 2009 study of ‘’Metal Music and Mental Health in France that says:
‘’As a whole, metal music fans have levels of anxiety and depression that are similar to and lower than levels in the general population. Specifically, less than 5 percent of metal music fans surveyed showed pathological symptoms. This study suggests that opponents of metal music should re-examine the basis for their criticism.’’
The study speculates that the dark and morbid themes beloved of metal lyricists may actually be good for listeners’ psyches. The authors suggest that frankness in reflecting on death in songs may make metallers less prone to anxiety and depression in real life, when faced with realities others might have neglected to think about. Click for the link.
Christ Watts
Chris Watts was a huge fan of Metallica and even had one of their logos tattooed on his back; the Shuriken, ”a martial-arts weapon usually in the shape of a star or cross with sharp protruding edges, thrown with a spin towards the target but meant only to distract or misdirect.”
It is said that ”on a deep level we are drawn to art that represents who we are, or we want images to give us what we feel we lack, and use the tattoo as an enhancement for our own energy.
Intention is the moving force behind the vibration of a tattoo and the emotion behind it will always lend a massive amount of power to its effect. It can also change your energy field.”
At 33, Watts was no adolescent, but the crimes he perpetrated against his pregnant wife and two daughters on August 13, 2018, made people take notice because after burying his wife and throwing the bodies of his two little girls in an oil tank battery at his workplace, he downloaded the lyrics of Metallica’s song Battery at 10:10 AM.
Was he reflecting on death and his state of mind? Could those lyrics have been the only significant words he could relate to in his own lunatic state?
Considering the total lack of affirmation he displayed in his life, the songs and tattoo might have been a reflection of his deep desire to rise his energy and confidence. His choice of ink seemed to indicate that a lot was brewing underneath the surface and he needed to unleash his power.
”Tattoos go beyond skin deep-they go soul deep, and are very revealing. Tattoos are energy hot spots because the ritual of wounding the skin and drawing blood releases intense energy that becomes part of the tattoo.” Click to read more.
He wrote tender love song lyrics to his girlfriend in a card, but his powerhouse energy and fury on August 13th, were crushing and FULL-ON.
Many say that he looked calm on that fateful day, but the colleagues who really knew him noticed a difference, and all his subsequent encounters with friends, the cops and finally the media, showed a Chris Watts far from being calm and collected.
He always kept things close to the vest, but when his family’s disappearance came to light, he was described as extremely nervous by his neighbors, and his mumbling and body swaying in front of reporters gave most of us, the clear message that he was hiding something apocalyptic. I do not know one soul who was fooled by his demeanor.
”It’s not something I could ever fathom would happen in my life. My heart is racing a mile a minute. It’s earth shattering. My life has been turned upside down. It scares the living crap out of me knowing it’s come to this. ”
While watching the security feed from the neighbors, he looked clammy and on the verge of fainting.
An interesting footnote about this is that the neighbor, Nathaniel Trinastich, actually lied to the cop to make him focus on Watts; ”To be completely honest with you, my wife and I were wondering when she was on vacation if something happened, because I’ve heard them flat-out screaming at each other at the top of their lungs, and he gets crazy.”
He admitted on Dr. Oz that he had exaggerated (aka lied); Watts never went crazy and never yelled at his wife. It indicates how easily people get caught up when there is a tragedy and how important witnesses are even tempted to fudge to get an end result.
Since the tragedy, Trinastich has been paid to give interviews and has his own press agent. But he gets a pass for at least retracting his lies.
Another neighbor told police that he saw the couple from afar and they looked like they were arguing, but they hugged shortly after. The conclusion was that they tried to project an image, but from everything I saw and read, Watts did not argue with his wife. She ruled the roost and he was passive.
It took a little longer for his loved ones to see the unavoidable because the Chris they knew could have never hurt his family.
He was red in the face, gulping, crossing his arms, and his statements made no sense.
Even his plea for the return of his family was disjointed and nonsensical. He kind of let on that he knew they were not coming back but wished they were because the house felt like a ghost town. He almost had the affect of someone on the Asperger’s spectrum.
His mistress at the time, Nichol Kessinger, said that she did not recognize his eyes and that the guy who was giving these interviews about his missing family was not the man she knew. It was pretty well the impression of everyone who knew him.
He looked like he knew Doomsday was coming his way fast and furiously
The Watts Family
This is the picture perfect family photo of the Watts that appeared in the Magazine Thrivin published by Le-Vel, the MLM company that his wife Shan’Ann worked for.
Thrive and Le-Vel are elements that played an important role in this story, and they will be revisited in the next sections.
Chris Watts met his future wife, Shan’ann Rzucek King, 8 years earlier in North Carolina. They were both from the area and shared modest roots.
Shan’ann worked in a car parts store called Dirty South, while Chris was an auto mechanic at a Ford dealership after graduating from the NASCAR Technical Institute.
She had gone from nanny for the boss to bookkeeper, sales manager and according to some, co-owner of the place. She was a hard worker and acquired a house on her own in 2009, after divorcing her first husband.
Chris’ passion was to one day become a crew chief for NASCAR and according to his former girlfriend, start a family. Hers was to become successful and be a mother.
Chris was born on May 16th, 1985 and Shan’ann on January 10th, 1984. They met in 2010 on Facebook after someone suggested Chris as a friend.
Shan’ann had suffered a setback because of health challenges and to hear her tell the story on Youtube, she was unable to sustain a relationship because of her ailments, but Chris insisted and stuck by her.
He took care of her and they ended up falling in love.
2012 was a big year for the couple because they moved to Colorado and came back to North Carolina to get married. His parents and sister did not attend the ceremony because of bad blood between them and the bride.
Only his grandmother and uncle were in attendance.
According to Shan’ann’s friend, Nickole Atkinson, the only time Chris had ever behaved cold and distant as he did towards his wife during the last few weeks of her life, was right after their wedding because of the estrangement from his family.
And this was happening all over again with the tree nuts fight that had spilled on social media, and was creating tension once again with his family who had blocked them on Facebook and were refusing to see Chris for a while.
He was silent and uncommunicative then and now.
To say that this incident did not have important consequences on the future of their relationship would be naive.
Shan’ann Watts
Shan’ann Watts was an open book. She was from a tight-knit family with Italian blood on her mother’s side that she was very proud of.
In my opinion, she grew up to be a strikingly beautiful woman with a charm reminiscent of old Hollywood.
A face à la Vivian Lee, an hourglass shape and a spunky, charming but fierce personality.
I do not think that I have ever seen a bad photo of the woman.
She claims to have been bullied and shy at a younger age in high school, but her brother seems to think she was always popular.
One of her Drama teachers gave a TV interview in support of her story, but her friend Lauren who went to school with her said that they were all snubbed by the rich cliques, but nothing ever serious.
Skipping College was no handicap for Shan’ann. She was very smart and could rival any graduate with her sales and people skills.
Shan’ann was once in a car accident and still had a visible scar on her forehead. According to her parents, she was also plagued with migraines at a young age.
The invisible suffering
In the midst of a divorce from her first husband, and working hard to have her expensive mansion built in North Carolina, it appears that she suffered a grave health crisis.
She was initially diagnosed with fibromyalgia and eventually, with lupus. It is not easy to identify the symptoms of these two afflictions, and the sufferers often become discouraged by the perceived lack of empathy from doctors, co-workers and friends.
Some people doubt the veracity of their health condition because from the outside, they can appear healthy. It is often tedious to find the right doctor because in the case of lupus, it requires several tests and a guessing game to confirm a diagnosis.
She had flare ups and was often tired and in pain, and it was undoubtedly putting a damper on her social and professional life.
Then, Chris Watts appeared on the horizon and basically swept her off her feet. Not literally because he was a very quiet and simple guy, but where it counts: with a pure heart and intentions.
He quickly joined the ranks of her goodwill circle; her forever devoted father Frank, her mother Sandra, her brother Frankie as well as a few good friends.
Unfortunately, things were not as rosy with Chris’ parents and it is difficult to know if they were simply incompatible or if one of the two sides was playing dirty.
Frankly, it could have been both sides, but it resulted in Chris becoming alienated from his own family and relegated only to the role of member of his wife’s exclusive club.
Colorado – Thriving for Success
Before they tied the knot, the two love birds, introvert and extrovert, left North Carolina for brighter skies and settled in Frederick, Colorado where the sun shines and the air is dry. According to Shan’ann, her doctor had suggested Colorado as one of the regions where she could move to improve her health.
As she had a friend from North Carolina living there, they settled for that option.
In one of her Facebook posts, Shan’ann wrote at the time, ”Not even married and Chris signed his life away to build us a house in Colorado.”
According to one of Chris’ friend who was interviewed by the police, he would have preferred to purchase a bungalow, but went along with the huge home to please the woman he loved.
Shan’ann had already owned a big house in NC, so he figured that she knew best, and it would be smooth sailing from then on.
After all, she had made enough money at her previous job to buy a big home, and was talking about becoming a nurse. Chris probably believed that they would become financial partners.
The fact that she had quit her job around the time they met, and eventually sold the house she had bought as an investment without great gain should have been a red flag, but he would not be the first to fall for her grandiosity.
She was the dominant force in the marriage and he was the follower.
It would end up being a huge mistake, but they went their merry way and resettled in Frederick, Colorado. While their house was under construction, they lived in the basement of the nurse who had briefly hired her as a nanny in NC before moving away.
The relationship between his wife and her old boss/landlady eventually soured and they severed all ties.
In 2012, Chris had obtained a job transfer from his Ford dealership to the Longmont location in Colorado and settled down there while his wife stayed behind to sell the house and some of its content.
The house they built in Frederick, Colorado was a five-bedroom, 4,177 square-foot home at 2825 Saratoga Trail, and according to public records, they paid $399,000 for it. A very steep price for a couple starting in life on the limited salary of a mechanic, and subsequently, of a field coordinator for Anadarko Petroleum.
Once there, Shan’ann worked at the same Longmont Ford dealership, but in the internet sales department.
Greg Alore who hired them said “He was very passive,” “She was very aggressive with him. Bossy. Do this. Do that. Telling him what to do. Dominating the relationship. That I do know.”
Still, the couple appeared to get along. “They were just an everyday American couple,” Alore said. Shan’ann, he said, was “sweet as can be.” And the internet reviews about her work were all good.
An interesting footnote is that even at the time, both of their salaries were deposited in her account.
She eventually worked part time doing phone sales for a children’s hospital and in 2017, announced that she was quitting her job to become a full-time mother and housewife, working from home as a Le-Vel promoter.
It probably became too stressful and demanding for her after giving birth to baby girl Bella Marie in December 2013, and to Celeste Cathryn in July 2015.
Interestingly, the couple filed for bankruptcy a month before the birth of their last daughter.
Shan’ann apparently was so ill when pregnant with Celeste that her parents came to live with them for 15 months. I cannot even wrap my head around this concept.
This is how dedicated they were to their daughter’s well-being. And good ole Chris took care of the girls and his wife without missing a beat.
Not once did her parents see any signs of restlessness or impatience towards their daughter and granddaughters.
One interesting point to note about the extended stay of the Rzuceks in Colorado, is that they had filed for bankruptcy not long before Chris and their daughter, and might have formed this big family unit to share their financial resources and weather this financial storm together.
This is not a situation I can imagine many men enduring; overspending, sickness, quitting a well paying job, living with the in-laws, and two new babies. But he probably believed in his wife and decided to be supportive.
Le-Vel – Thrive
In April 2017, Shan’ann wrote on her Facebook “I’m really excited and looking forward to working from where ever my girls are!” adding the hashtags #Myfamilydeservesme and #Wontmissanythinganymore
Facebook and social media in general, are the modern ways to reach people, and Shan’ann took full advantage of it. She never stopped. It appears that at first, the girls were home with her, but she eventually enrolled them gradually in daycare to pursue her career.
Contrary to a lot of other MLM promoters, I found Shan’ann very natural on camera when she talked about the products. It was short on specific information, but very pleasant and personable.
She would recount her life trajectory and sounded convincing in her belief that Thrive had changed her life and by osmosis, the well-being of her family.
I usually cringe when the lady promoters start their sales pitch with constant interruptions to greet the newcomers. And go on and on with their phony routine.
The following parody illustrates what I usually think of their sales schitck.
Four Leaf Clover Peel for energy and luck
The last year of their lives, the girls were attending an exclusive preschool/daycare called Primrose school at Vista Ridge at the cost of $500 a week.
These lovely girls were growing like weed and looked very happy in spite of minor health problems, mostly related to their immune system.
Shan’ann believed in Thrive and used it daily. So did Chris. According to her sales pitch, she had less pain and more energy since taking Thrive. It consisted in pills for him/her in the morning, a shake and a DFT patch, that they were supposed to call dfts.
The reason people like Shan’ann had less pain could be because of the White Willow Bark which is nature’s Aspirin. The energy boost can stem from the Green Coffee Bean extract. Garcinia Cambogia is advertised to burn fat and is quite trendy.
As safe as these popular ingredients sound, they can have serious side effects. Click to read what the Journal of gastroenterology had to say about the intake of Garcinia Cambogia and its effects on the liver in certain instances.
We never know how we will react to a product. The same principle applies to some medications, but they have been tested and we take them under the supervision of a doctor.
You can also read the article on the thousands of hospitalizations that happen every year because of supplements not unlike Thrive, and too much caffeine.
I personally read positive and negative comments about the products. But this article is from someone whose editor was actually sued by Le-Vel. It contains information and product testimonies. Click to read.
The comments below are only a small sample of what is posted about this type of product. ” My husband stopped the patches and he went angry. My lovely, quiet, caring, would not hurt a fly husband had two days of being angry.”
‘My roommate and I got three day trials of the pill, shakes and patches. I hadn’t taken mine yet, but my roommate did. On day 2, she took everything in order. By noon, she was shaking uncontrollably and couldn’t eat anything. I thought she may have just not eaten anything that day or needed more water. She decided to go to the ER when symptoms didn’t subside. Turns out she overdosed on the 4 types of caffeine and an unknown substance that were in the product and was going through withdrawal. Also, doctors didn’t have enough information about the product to gauge what she was going through. Needless to say, I’m throwing away my trial.”
“My daughter-in-law went on Thrive and used it for roughly a month. During that time she lost so much weight that she looked sick. She had horrible issues with unusual heart beat, racing heart, inability to sleep, and started to feel horrible. Her Doctor had her stop Thrive instantly and told her that she was in heart failure. She could have died because of these products. I strongly advise checking with your Doctor before using any weight loss products.
Nothing is worth losing your life over to lose weight and feel amazing. These products should be banned.”
“Gave me horrid anxiety at night. And that was just taking pills abs shakes I’d probably be in ER if I’d taken patch too. I tried pills and shake in 2 different occasions weeks apart just to see. The shakes are also very gritty but a good flavor.”
Click for a breakdown of all Thrive ingredients from Supplement Clarity, including Synephrine (orange bitters) that chemically looks like Ephedra.
After listening to several women selling Thrive online, I recognized some similarities in their presentation.
They were not feeling well, were constantly tired, depressed and could not muster the energy necessary to function all day. They became better spouses and mothers after taking the products.
So the goal is always to help others Thrive. A new found fountain of youth so to speak, and a way to make a lot of money by dragging others out of their misery. As appealing as it may superficially sound, it is a risky proposition based on fallacies.
Shan’Ann described her life before Thrive as ”living and breathing negativity and it showed on my husband and kids.”
She affirmed that since Thrive, her husband found her less cranky and if her children would be old enough to express it, they would say the same thing about her.
She also declared ”Chris used to have to do things in seconds, and now he has a few minutes before I get mad.” She even posted words of gratitude for her husband ”for putting up with 3 impatient and demanding girls.”
It sure sounds like life at la Casa Watts was no picnic for Chris before the shakes and dfts, and this is why according to Shan’ann, his motto had become ”Happy wife, Happy life.”
In the same token, Chris seemed to Thrive the right way by losing a lot of weight and finding the time to go jogging and exercising in his basement.
His wife described him as more sociable and always kind and patient, and herself as the domineering one in the relation. She declared that ”he did everything she asked.”
Whenever she promoted in person or online and he was home, you could find him in the background with the girls eager to help or move out of her way on command.
He even participated in some of her phone calls at night, and she started selling the products under his name by accessing his Facebook and cell phone.
A good friend of Chris who noticed some of his sappy Facebook messages about his wife and Thrive, took upon himself to ask him if he really wrote that stuff. Chris admitted that Shan’ann was usually the ‘creative source and author’ behind the posts.
Much ado about nothing was made about the photo of a doll covered with a Twister tarp that Shan’ann posted on Facebook and that came from Chris’ phone.
She sure sounded like she knew the girls did it: “At least they covered the body together. At least we know they have each other’s back.”
Considering how she micromanaged the girls, it is pretty obvious that she would have discussed it with them.
Chris was at work that day and she always had his personal phone to post on his/her Facebook about Le-Vel or other stuff.
If you look at her posts, she had posted a doll with the head removed and said that Cece did it and all kind of bizarre children stuff that she found funny.
And her mom Sandra was the first to say it was a joke. We did that with our dolls as children. It only sounds sinister when we reflect on what happened to the girls, and if we want to go there, maybe sensitive and intuitive Bella could have been sensing something, but this big doll was in many photos and other dolls were put in the corner or in funny situations by Shan’ann herself.
And if he sent it to his wife, I strongly doubt that the guy was sending subliminal messages or veiled threats ahead of time.
During an interview, his ex girlfriend from North Carolina also remembered that Shan’ann would access his Facebook to either unfriend someone or write something on his behalf.
One could not help noticing that Thrive had become Shan’ann’s life and passion. By osmosis, Chris was following suit.
She incessantly documented their life on social media and it was often linked to Thrive. The kids would hold a Le-Vel banner and had to be on video during the promotions.
They were told repeatedly to say hi to everyone, and at times, you felt a malaise just watching it. And the way she would rave about her husband one minute, but devalue him afterwards on video was also disturbing.
You could tell that Shan’Ann adored her children, but it sometimes felt like they were props. She expressed the desire to have a reality show with the girls, and had the incessant need to put them on display.
She also acquired quite a circle of acquaintances and her Thrive team became part of her every day life. She was constantly on her phone and would often include her dad Frank in the conversation.
It felt like an escape from her mundane life, and it did not appear to leave much room for a meaningful relationship with her husband.
I do not think that Chris derived much pleasure from this type of lifestyle, except for what it allowed him to accomplish fitness wise and maybe some of the travel destinations.
But he still acted as her cheerleader.
In a Thrive Video on Youtube, a Le-Vel promoter named Kindra Morse mentions dumping a non supportive spouse if it gets in the way of your dreams.
Knowing the microscopic percentage of people who make good money working for an MLM company, this message is wrong on so many levels.
She mentions being inspired by a speech given by promoter Chris Collins who had to make a choice between his spouse and Le-Vel when asked to choose between her or being on the phone constantly to sell Thrive.
He left his wife because nobody was going to stand in the way of the great future he deserved.
The so called free vacations Shan’ann earned were always with the Thrive gang and Chris would kind of blend in the background. Only the hotel fees were covered. She had to pay for the meals and would have to work extra to get the flights included.
Their new Thrive lifestyle was taking them down a familiar path of unpaid bills and uncertainties.
Shan’ann had qualified for a car bonus from Le-Vel, and leased a Lexus. You need $12,000 in monthly sales to get the $800 bonus, and if you default, you have to pay the car from your own pocket.
As much as she was doing well selling Thrive with her team, it was very risky to have entered into this contract instead of taking the $300 in cash that was the alternative.
They were already using this cash amount each month from Chris’ car bonus. But image is a big part of the Thrive sales pitch.
In her videos, she discussed replacing the Lexus with an Audi and wanting it all for her and the girls.
You could not help wondering why someone did not wake her up from that dream.
Chris was a beta male unable to have any kind of confrontation with his wife, and he was watching their boat sink without taking out the raft.
Her mother declared on 20/20 that her daughter wanted to take care of the entire family. Her poor naive brother Frankie told cops she was making $500,000 a year at age 22, and could afford a big home in NC.
Chris had to purchase the home in Colorado under his name only because his wife’s poor credit would not allow them to put her name on the loan.
It sounds like she was perceived as the driving force, heart and savior of the family when in fact, she was unable to manage money and lived way beyond her means.
Her immediate entourage did not realize or did not dare tell the Empress she had no clothes.
In a Thrive convention video, you can see them test driving an expensive Tesla and talking about acquiring a luxury car. Knowing how broke they were at the time, it is surreal to watch them sit there with their patches on display.
Interesting footnote: while test driving the Tesla, Chris asked to listen to And Justice For All from Metallica.
Halls of justice painted green
Money talking
Power wolves beset your door
Hear them stalking
Soon you’ll please their appetite
They devour
Hammer of justice crushes you
Overpower
At the end of August 2017, Chris let everyone know on Facebook that Shan’ann had an interior cervical discectomy and fusion with arthroplasty plant, aka neck surgery. He said that she was in pain but doing well.
This elective surgery was $100,000 and their share to pay was $27,000.
You add all the physical ailments their daughters suffered, and it made their lifestyle sound pretty unsustainable.
In a video where she wears a neck brace, Shan’ann mentions that Chris is texting her every 4 hours to remind her to take her pills because she is forgetful.
The trip to North Carolina – The Perfect Storm
Even if everything looked good on the outside, a storm was brewing in the Watts’ household. The mortgage payments were not paid for 3 months and $10,000 had to be withdrawn from Chris’ 401k to make ends meet.
When tragedy struck on August 13, the mortgage was due on the 16th and was probably going to be delinquent.
The girls had to be taken out of daycare for the summer for lack of funds. They were supposed to start again in late August.
Maybe Shan’ann was trying to save during the summer by staying at hers and Chris’ parents’ place, but the reason she gave in a video was that she intended to recruit in a new market.
It made sense because paying for flights for her, the girls and Chris did not represent many savings on the long run.
The trip that was at first supposed to last 2 weeks, became a 6 weeks vacation that even her father questioned. He said in a police interview that he warned his daughter against it because she tended to butt heads with her mom. The same way he did with his son.
There was a lot of love in that family, but also typical disagreements between two helicopter moms; a term that her own friends used to describe her.
Shan’ann had decided to also spend some weekends with Chris’ parents and his sister, and to go visit his grandma.
Considering that the Watts had visited them twice a year in Colorado, and even babysat the girls on occasion, it sounded like a good plan at the time.
According to Ronnie Watts, after receiving food recommendations from their son and Shan’ann, they had spent $300 in groceries to feed the girls as required, and were prepared to do many fun activities with them. They were thrilled.
They did not get to see the girls as often as their other two grandchildren. Cindy babysat her daughter’s two children a few times a week, but was looking forward to spend time with Chris’ girls.
They went as far as buying a pool and a trampoline to keep the girls entertained, and Ronnie took a week off to make himself more available. They went to great lengths to welcome their granddaughters and their mother.
While there, Shan’ann captured a video of Cindy Watts singing to the girls in her bed and they appeared to have fun. Her mother in law did not pay attention to the camera.
It would have bothered me to no end to have someone hovering over me, but grandma played it cool.
Not so much on another video taken on a visit to Aspen when Cindy and Ronnie Watts look like they are trying to ‘flee’ not to be taped by their daughter-in-law who is walking sideways while trying to tell Cece, who is sitting on her father’s shoulders, to say something to her dad Frank, and whomever else she is ‘Facetiming’ with at the time.
Once again, a situation of malaise for the viewer.
There is a video online of a very warm Cindy delighted to see her grand-kids when she arrived at the Colorado airport to babysit. There is another one of Mimi gently introducing newborn Celeste to Bella in Shan’ann’s hospital bed. Nothing but a loving and helpful Grandma.
The video below is of Cindy at the hospital with Chris and Shan’ann when she flew to Colorado to give a hand. Very sad reminder of the tragedy that wiped out a beautiful family.
What was behind the trip?
In spite of the reasons invoked, one has to wonder why this trip really took place. Shan’ann was not in the business of leaving her husband behind without ‘supervision.’ She mentioned fighting with the girls every day, and we know that she had a difficult relationship with her mom.
Her friend Lauren said in an interview that she had noticed that Chris was different towards his wife weeks, if not months before she left.
Being pregnant with her health challenges must have been tough, and the girls probably acted out like any other kids would when displaced and in the company of other family members. And we all know that as adorable as Cece was, she was a handful.
Frankie Rzucek Junior mentioned how exhausting it was to be around this little jelly bean.
Maybe the answer is simple; being pregnant and Chris at work, she could not handle taking care of the girls on her own.
But a hairdresser from her mother’s salon who knew Shan’ann, definitely said that she was going to leave Chris. An attorney swears that he met her in NC and she asked him about divorce laws in Colorado.
Her parents say they were not aware of the deterioration of the relationship but Sandra said to the police that she told her daughter to stay in NC and she answered that she needed Chris’ insurance.
It gave the impression that she was trying to put Chris to the test. Before she left for NC, she was doubling on the sex with her husband, which was unusual according to what he had described as their usual intimacy.
Did she think that he would miss her and the girls and would appreciate her efforts towards his family? Was she assessing if she could live in NC in case of a separation or simply because they could not afford Colorado anymore and were losing the house?
Was the foolish expense of a condo by the beach an effort to rekindle their romance?
Not to mention the pregnancy in spite of her health problems and their financial situation. Chris mentioned to the cops that his wife was taking a lot of Imitrex for her migraines because the weather in NC triggered them. And we know that his coldness probably contributed to the stress. Click to read about Imitrex and pregnancy.
In an ‘ambush’ video she posted after announcing the ‘good news’ to her husband, he looks a bit shell shocked. She told everyone the baby was for him because he wanted a boy, and he seemed to have been on board thinking it might revive the relationship.
Was it in an effort to hold on to her husband? As we all know by now, she made all the decisions and her husband did as he was told. So, I strongly doubt that the pregnancy originated from him.
She used this type of ‘surprise video’ to announce Cece’s pregnancy and he looked fine, but the audience at the time was their friends and family. Now, his reaction was displayed to her entire entourage and Thrive family.
Plus, she was announcing the pregnancy as a Thrive Baby so it would mean a lot more promotion and videos if the mother was ethically allowed to credit an MLM for her pregnancy. She was still using the patches and other Thrive ingredients while pregnant; not very wise if you ask me.
According to Sandra, her daughter’s first two pregnancies required fertility treatment ($$$), but her third pregnancy happened the natural way after only two tries. I find it hard to believe, but if true, it could explain why Chris could have said yes thinking it might never materialize.
Before his polygraph, Chris discussed the two pregnancies with the detective, and declared about the third pregnancy that “they did not really think it would happen.”
On the other hand, when his wife posted an ultrasound of the baby on social media, he answered that he loved her/him already.
Letting the Horse Out of the Barn
Her good man Chris was slowly feeling the Burn of their Duo. He mentioned that he could not talk to her. He had to obey and get with the program. His mother Cindy said that he always looked nervous around his wife and when she asked for something, he did not walk, he ran. The videos she posted were evidence of that, but also showing a very nurturing and involved father.
Their financial situation was dire, Thrive was occupying all her time and if he tried talking or hanging out with her, she would sometimes answer ”Are you talking to me? Because I’m not listening” or would say that she had phone calls to make. Not to mention badmouthing him in front of the girls
Her former husband said that she lived attached to her phone, and it was before MLM. And contrary to her relationship with Cindy Watts, she got along very well with his mother.
Interestingly enough, he also said that towards the end of their relationship, after he asked to go to couple therapy, she went twice but it was virtually impossible to engage her in conversation. She cut herself from him, would stay in a different room. Not confrontational but totally withdrew.
Exactly like Chris did when he wanted out. It seems to be a universal reaction.
It became clear that Shan’ann did not have friends. She had an entourage, and Chris was the provider and a flunky to be called in when needed as a ‘human jungle gym’ for the kids (as described by a neighbor), massage therapist or lover. Not to mention a great looking prop for Thrive promotions.
She texted one of her friends that when she took a shower, he knew she wanted sex. And from the sound of it, it was a case of you better deliver. She called the shots in that department.
He was at her beck and call. It is hard not to notice that her friends seemed to act the same way.
She had both families babysitting when they went on trips they basically could not afford, her parents moving in for 15 months, paying $1000 in monthly rent while sleeping in an unfinished basement and keeping up with their mortgage payments in North Carolina, and her friend Christina coming from Hawaii with her young daughter to spend two months taking care of her after surgery.
And what is there to say about Nickole Atkinson who was doing her hair, driving her, taking care of the dog and the mail and was asked to babysit the girls for a doctor visit and a weekend so that Shan’ann and Chris could go to Aspen? Maybe all that help was reciprocated, but never mentioned.
As Nickole had to work, another couple named Amanda and Nick were asked to babysit that weekend.
When for obvious reasons, Chris’ parents did not attend Cece’s birthday in North Carolina and instead, mailed her birthday gifts in Colorado, Atkinson was in charge of returning them to sender. Her way to say FU to them.
The woman herself had a nursing aid job, sold Thrive, had two children and her daughter was in daycare only 2 days a week.
Atkinson actually mowed her lawn on a hot day after pregnant Shan’ann lamented having to do it herself to appease Chris (yeah right, as if she ever had to cut the grass while pregnant), and came to pick up and deliver the envelope for the gender reveal. I admire friendship and devotion, but it felt a bit much.
She had been recruited by Shan’ann and called her bossy, but in ‘a good way.’
The minute Shan’ann and the girls left for NC, Chris came out of the barn to never return.
Nichol Kessinger
Chris probably had already admired 30-year-old Nichol Kessinger from afar at his work place where she had an office. His co-workers had, and one of them told cops he had seen the two having conversations.
She had studied geology, and worked for Tasman Geosciences, which contracted with Anadarko Petroleum. He had never approached her before, but because of his ‘new found freedom’, he started a conversation and a relationship ensued.
Later in the relationship, he wrote to her ” The first day I saw you, you took my breath away. The first day I had the guts to talk to you, I got lost in those stunning green eyes.”
I get what the man saw in her. She was strong and attractive and could dress down for outdoor activities, but look very alluring when she dressed up and wore a little makeup. And they had a lot in common.
They could open up and talk to each other. They felt understood. The ones who make this relationship only about sex, are totally off the tracks.
She was in perfect physical shape and they shared a love of exercising. He finally had someone to exchange with and go play outside. Nichol said that he had never gone camping before and did not know how to light a fire.
He told cops that his wife never went hiking, and that she wanted to take a fake photo of them jogging together to promote Thrive.
He had lost a lot of weight during that year and was in great shape. With her help, he learned to eat healthier, and to read food labels; which aggravated his wife a little.
He said that his wife did not want him to work out in the evening, and consequently, he did it very early in the morning before going to work.
His ex girlfriend from North Carolina mentioned in an interview that when they dated, Chris went to the gym 2 hours each day, but that Shan’Ann put a stop to it when they got together.
As a Gear head, Chris had found someone to share his passion for cars, and he was now allowed to reconnect with his old self and enjoy outdoor activities and nature.
A far cry from the superficial world of MLM, cell phones and staged portrayals on social media.
Plus, his mistress had a good job and was financially very responsible. A dream come true.
It is sad and unfortunate that a partner sometimes needs to step out on his spouse to come to realize that he/she was trapped in a bad but normalized domestic situation.
As he told the detective, never in a Million years did he expect to fall that hard.
He declared that he never knew that he could love this way.
He asked them to leave her out of this mess.
I always find it insulting for the former spouse when a partner professes undying love for someone new and pretends not having known love before, but it is not unusual. You hear that type of statement all the time. It illustrates the power of love and its erasing properties on one’s memory.
Even if I really do not condone affairs, we know they happen. It would be hypocritical to pretend that it is rare and that lovers should be thrown stones and condemned Medieval style.
What is awful is the way it is handled. Not that it happens.
It was the beginning of the end for Shan’ann. I can only imagine the stress of being pregnant with two little girls and your husband chooses that time to fall out of love with you.
Maybe it was not surprising considering the way he was treated through the years and all the things that were negated in favor of her lifestyle, but he was a grown man and you would think that he could have tried to regain control of his own identity along the way, and put his foot down about the finances and the impossible logistic of having a new baby at this time.
One of them had to be reasonable, and it obviously was not going to be his wife.
Their own dysfunctions had set them on a dangerous collision course.
His parents and sister had seen this coming since the beginning and in spite of Cindy’s worries about the pregnancy, they kind of were hoping that he had finally seen the light.
According to Shan’ann, Cindy and Jamie Watts had destroyed her engagement party, her wedding, birthdays, births, etc. Basically everything they were involved with.
They categorically deny not mailing invitations or contaminating the food; they had no clue that Shan’ann was avoiding gluten at the time. Jamie was actually removed from the bridal party because she could not participate in all the activities planned for that week. She had a job and a family that kept her from being there all the time.
How strange that the cops would not even bother interviewing Jamie or Cindy or if they did, did not publish their side in the discovery, and instead, published a letter from Sandra when she was not even there, and they were.
The Nut Case
That summer, she accused her mother in law Cindy of wanting to murder Cece because her other older grandchild took a little cup of vanilla ice cream from the freezer and ate it near Celeste. Cindy is not the one who served the ice cream and she had purchased a special kind for Bella and Cece.
According to the Watts, the ice cream came from an establishment where cross-contamination with tree nuts was possible, but it was never served to Celeste.
Cindy believed that an allergic child should learn to face situations where she won’t be allowed to eat what the others are having. She was shocked by her daughter in law harsh reaction to the situation when there was absolutely no harm no foul. Maybe she should have obeyed Shan’ann, and instructed the kids to wait till Cece would go to bed, but there never was a threat of death or allergy.
At the birthday party where Chris took the girls on August 12th, the other kids were eating a birthday ice cream cake that the girls were not allowed to have. Do not ask me why Shan’ann demanded that Bella be deprived of a piece out of ‘solidarity’ for her sister, but the others sure ate it in their company. I do not see the difference.
Strangely, when the story was told to the police, both girls were allergic to all nuts.
When her mother Sandra recounted the event, it had a totally different spin: Both girls were served ice cream with nut chips on it.
And there were razor blades all over the house.
Her friend Lauren said in a police interview that Shan’ann told her that Cindy gave Cece a peanut to test if she was allergic.
And Jamie was accused of having put a bowl of nuts on the table in a grand gesture of defiance. In fact, she was not even present for the nut drama and had showed up just in time to pick up her children.
But to be fair, according to a childhood friend of Chris who was interviewed by the Colorado police, the girls had eaten ‘chocolate’ and Cindy was crying and saying she did not know they were allergic to it. So go figure.
The truth from a certain point of view
It sometimes become a case of Chinese whispers, and we do not know what was really said originally or what had been retained by the listener. All we know for sure is that Shan’ann posted this comment on her social media:
”Today she let her other granddaughter eat ice cream that has all tree nuts in front of and next to my 2.5 year old that can’t have them. I said I didn’t appreciate it and removed my daughter. Her response was that she can’t always get what she wants.”
As to be predicted, Chris ended in the middle of this firestorm and no peace could be negotiated even if Cindy would apologize. This is what Shan’ann texted to her husband about the situation:
‘She’s evil and willing to risk your daughter’s life just to get under my skin. You and your dad are no different if you are OK with her behavior. ‘l’m not accepting l’m sorry from your mom, because she doesn’t mean it.”
‘There’s nothing wrong with me and l’m not crazy. I just love my kids way too much.’
The girls were not allergic to peanuts and Shan’ann made peanut butter balls on video while in her kitchen with the girls. It is difficult to comprehend why her own mother would come up with these false statements when the source was her daughter; it appears that she often exaggerated and was never taken to task about it.
The razor blades were in fact one scraper to clean the stove top.
Cece’s tree nuts allergic episodes were documented on social media and appeared very real, but several times in her videos, Shan’ann ate food that she would not share with the girls; not unlike their cousin did.
What I found most disconcerting is the fact that in one video, we clearly see Celeste eating a lemon meringue Pro Bar that contains tree nuts: It reads on the label ‘Allergens: Contains Milk, Soy, Tree Nuts (Coconut).’ Click the link to read the ingredients from their site.
Even if slim, wasn’t there a chance of endangering Cece’s life considering what mom told Bella on the subject?
The teenager who babysat the girls shortly before the tragedy, revealed to the cops that Bella had confided in her that she would never see Cece again if she ate coconut.
I do not see who else than her own mom could have told her about the risk of Cece dying after ingesting coconut.
”Coconut is not a botanical nut; it is classified as a fruit, even though the Food and Drug Administration recognizes coconut as a tree nut. While allergic reactions to coconut have been documented, most people who are allergic to tree nuts can safely eat coconut.”
Her brother had pistachios in his bedroom and was not accused of having murderous intentions.
She mentioned wanting to eat out because her mom was making pesto and she was afraid. She also complained about Cece being given cookies. Why did she not cut ties with her own family?
That really made me question her personality and sense of entitlement. Was it a power play to get Chris’ attention and make him take her side?
At the 2-minute mark, Cece is eating a lemon meringue Pro Bar. I agree with Bella, it does not taste yummy
He was distant so maybe a family conflict would arouse his loyalty. She would not back down even if Chris told her that it put a dagger between him and his dad.
It is hard to believe that the Watts women would have behaved so wickedly towards Chris’ wife when we know that they were well liked by many, and do not seem to have a bad history with their son ex girlfriend and friends who found them friendly and non intrusive.
Being a respiratory therapist, I am sure that Jamie Watts understood the perils of tree nuts allergies. Considering that the nut narrative tended to change constantly, it sounds like the Rashomon effect; because we do not have the versions of all the parties directly involved, it will remain the great nut mystery.
Maybe both sides were at fault, but to use the girls as a weapon and to keep Chris from bringing them to his parents’ house was totally uncalled for.
It was all about obey and worship your wife or else. This is the quote from some kind of head elder of The Seventh-day Adventist church that she texted to her friend and wanted to send Chris. Husbands: Stand up for your wife and protect her from the attacks that come from the people close to you. Let your family and friends know that when it comes to your wife and marriage, there is a line they cannot cross. She left family, friends and she even dropped her name and gladly adopted yours, just to be with you. Therefore, if you have to take sides then always take your wife’s side because she is one with you. From the day you say “I do” your wife displaces your parents, friends and siblings. Apart from God, your wife now occupies and assumes the privileged first place of honor in your life. Oftentimes it requires that you lovingly stand up for your wife in front of your parents, especially your mother. “Therefore, what God has joined together, let no (mother, father, brother, sister, friend or boss) separate.” – Isaac Kubvoruno
I could think of a few scriptures that would send the ball back in her court, like “The wisest of women builds her house, but folly with her own hands tears it down.”
He meagerly apologized afterwards because it was a lost cause to try to convince her otherwise. Instead, he prepared his exit.
If Shan’Ann thought this would make her regain control over her husband, she had miscalculated.
Figuratively speaking and with great horror, it probably put the last nail in her coffin.
Thriving to Death
Many so called pundits and crime revelers have publicly labeled Chris a narcissist, a psychopath, sociopath, etc.
To label someone, you would have to look at a compilation of their behavior from childhood to adulthood, and in his case, it does not seem to indicate any personality disorder or mental illness that anyone close to him along the way could corroborate. He was an introvert but it is simply a trait. Nothing wrong with it.
”Have you ever met someone and were immediately taken back by the manner in which they were able to sell themselves to the general public. Imagine the ability to captivate an audience by selling empty dreams and promises.
Think back to the times of the pyramid schemes in which only those at the top seen the wealth while riding upon the coattails of those beneath to advance their own personal agenda and status position and you’ll begin to understand the way in which a narcissist captivates, eludes, and dances to a different tune to entrance their victims into giving them everything they can provide.
Many of the victims from narcissism didn’t start out as poor nor did they foolishly hand over their control of their wealth. They were in fact preyed upon by a wolf in sheep’s clothing, a smooth talker, a charmer, a chameleon, and in many cases someone who sold them empty promises of a brighter future.
However, what the narcissist doesn’t tell these unsuspecting targets is how they will be used, in many cases abused, and devalued and discarded being left penniless, homeless, and struggling for their basic necessities.” Donna Hines ‘A Narcissist Dream Plan Exposed‘
If you look at this partial description and the grandiose state of mind, it is his wife’s behavior that comes to mind.
It is not hard to conclude that it was Chris who was sold the dream of a bright future, alienated from his family and headed to the poor house. She was the one standing proudly on top of that pyramid scheme selling happiness at a ridiculously high price.
The Narcissist’s pawns! Why do Narcissists have close and dedicated friends that think the Narcissist is absolutely amazing? Understanding those minions or flying monkeys and understanding what role they play in protecting the Narcissist. Click to see the source.
But it is the role of professionals to assess them and certainly not on TV or social media.
Chris did not control his wife, did not devalue her, did not emotionally abuse her, did not financially or physically abuse her, did not alienate her from her family. The silence fell at the very end when he wanted out.
He did not demonstrate aggressive behavior, law breaking, impulsiveness, stealing or antisocial traits during his life. What he did on August 13, 2018 came from left field.
Is there a Marshmallow’s spectrum?
There are “specific DSM criteria” for psychopathy; the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. Making a claim against a defendant when there is “nothing in the record” is outrageous.
“Psychopaths don’t just turn over one day, and they’re all better now.” Legal ethics expert Ellen Yaroshefsky
When the relationship Chris Watts entertained with Nichol Kessinger caught fire, the man probably started to burst at the seams with mental anguish.
He might have doubled his DFTs and probably his shakes and according to Nikki, he was super hyper and unable to shut off his brain or sleep. He had lost 13 pounds in a few weeks, on top of all the weight loss since starting Thrive.
When he started wearing the Burn Duo patches, his Apple watch indicated that he was working out all the time, even if he was not. His heart rate was constantly elevated.
“I cannot stay still. I vacuumed the kitchen, entry ways and mopped them. Vacuumed downstairs and now moving upstairs”
Dr Shaun Holt, the medical director of HoneyLab, warns there are many reasons to be wary of the Thrive DFT patch, which is not supported by clinical trials. “Best case is that it is a waste of money, worst case is that it is dangerous,” he says. ”If sufficient levels of the ingredients were absorbed by the body, it could be dangerous.
“And something that really annoys me is the disclaimer on the label to seek advice from a health professional on the product. They have not done trials, health professionals do not know the levels, if any, getting in the body and so cannot advise.”
Watts might have felt awful at the idea of his pregnant wife needing his medical benefits and how it would look to her whole entourage for him to walk away. He would have become persona non grata overnight.
He did not want to lose his mistress and neglected to tell her the truth about baby number 3. Imagine how she was going to react to that ‘little omission.’ Hit the road Jack!
He probably felt trapped and that is when things took a turn for the sinister; It has even been suggested that Chris gave some Oxycodone to his wife to trigger a miscarriage.
After all, how would he introduce a newborn to the equation if he separated? Nichol was a strong willed person, and he could read the writing on the wall he was going to hit pretty soon.
By all accounts, he was a great dad and doted on his little girls. Not once, were they not part of the conversation when he planned a separation.
He kept telling Shan’ann that he loved them and did not want to lose them, and told Nichol the same.
Something really went awry in that man’s brain, and even if some say that he was always evil and hiding behind a mask, I do not really concur because too many pieces are missing to come to that conclusion.
Shan’ann’s parents lived with them for over a year. His co-workers vouched for him. His friends and family did the same. And to this day, none of them seem to be able to reconcile the shift that happened in his personality.
It would have been a good thing for this couple to separate amicably; acting as good co-parents, but I doubt that it would have been possible with his wife.
Shan’ann needed a stronger mate to keep her in check and Chris needed someone who could be in tune with his quiet nature and to have adventures with. Someone to talk to and not put him down constantly.
The amygdala is known as the reptilian brain, because it controls our primal emotions and functions, including lust, fear, hate, as well as heart rate and breathing.
When triggered, the amygdala is where the fight or flight response is made. Narcissists keep their victims in a state where their amygdala is constantly on alert. Lachlan Brown – Hacked Spirit
He was not strong enough to face his own wife. He could not find the courage to leave. He described always being nervous around her and walking on egg shells.
Shan’ann needed to face her financial problems. She was going to hit a financial brick wall sooner than later, and the girls were not going to attend their great daycare or live in the big home. But it would have been fine. God knows she had enough of an entourage to make it. Plus, many men would have been interested in her.
In June 2018, Shan’ann posted about Chris wearing the new BURN DUO patches. He was hyper and could not stop himself. He looked on steroids on the picture.
Ephedra anyone? Side effects of the herb included heart palpitations, nausea, and vomiting. More than 800 dangerous reactions have been reported – among them, heart attacks, strokes, seizures, and sudden death. Psychosis, insomnia, and heatstroke.
Click to read the article from Harvard Medical School.
Top Le-Vel leader Kary Kruger posted a video on Youtube in 2016 to announce she was leaving the company to sell organic CBD oil sourced in Switzerland because some things did not sit well with her about the company and the many restrictions they imposed on what she wanted to accomplish in her field of wellness and pain management.
And she exclaimed about her new company ”There is real science here, oh my goodness how refreshing!”
I am not saying that the products he was ingesting made him kill his family. I am saying that his brain chemistry was probably affected and he was in the middle of a financial, marital and physical crisis that he could not deal with considering his introverted nature as well as his subservient role in the marriage.
His problems might have seemed menial to some, but he appeared unable to overcome them and harness his emotions. Watching the videos, it is not hard to imagine that he would one day rise up.
There are conflicting statements about Watts being a sleepwalker. If the case, he would have had to be mindful of alcohol intake or central nervous system depressants and of exhaustion, fatigue and ‘bouts of insomnia.’ Again, not an excuse but a sign that every brain can be affected differently by the intake of shady substances.
“Someone’s thrivin’…Up for work at 4am. Just got home and now mowing the grass. ”
August 13, 2018
During the last few weeks of her life in North Carolina, Shan’ann appeared to fight for her marriage. She kept trying to reach out to her husband and fired a lot of texts to her friends lamenting their sorry situation. She looked very distraught in the photo she sent to her friends, and stopped publishing her usual videos and selfies. Some say there were more and they are buried out there.
Some have surfaced on the beach in North Carolina, where we see a very attentive Chris with his two daughters and her dad assisting while she is Facetiming with friends and directing how the girls should behave in the water, but so far, nothing promoting Thrive.
She wrote him a love letter and mailed him a book titled Hold Me Tight. It was later found in the trash container in the garage.
On the other hand, she remained steadfast in her hatred and banishment of his family and demanded total loyalty from Chris; meaning that once again, his family had to take the back seat.
Am I the only one to see the cruel and dark irony of his wife ending up on the back seat of his truck instead?
She called them stupid and evil, and kept repeating that her husband had no balls and that over her dead body would they ever see the girls again. Once again, a sad and ironic choice of words.
She wanted him to have the cojones to go against his family, but to remain submissive to her.
Much to his wife dismay, Chris eventually had the balls to shut down his Fakebook and to stop the financial bleeding/abuse by insisting on selling the house. And this time around, he was not going to accept that his family be dismissed from his life.
I can only imagine her reaction if Chris would have tried to keep the girls from the Rzuceks because Sandra was loud and bossy and cooked pesto. Both sets of parents had a pushy wife and an easygoing husband. It was their model. Her brother Frankie said about his sister “she was my mom times 10 whether either one of them wanted to admit it.”
Once they returned home to Frederick, she eventually relented and sent his parents the ultrasound of baby Nico Lee. Ronnie called it an act of desperation, but she probably had realized by then that the marital boat was sinking.
On the Netflix documentary about the case, it says that in her last letter, a few days before her demise, she allegedly told Chris she would be civil to his mother and did not want to hurt him.
For the record, this part of the letter was not in the discovery. Part of what they were showing differed from the original so, I cannot say for a fact that she said that.
His line of defense was to remain silent and not confront her. Her friends and family were telling her to give him some space and not to get upset. She expressed her desire to flip on him and his family and go crazy on his ass, but tried to show restraint. He had never dared standing up to her, and what a time to start.
I Hate being Second to Those I Put Last
She wanted him to grow a pair but not at home. He told her that they were not compatible anymore and that he was fine with the girls and did not want the baby. He added that he might go to Hell for saying that but it was how he felt.
He subsequently backpedaled, vacillated and took the blame.
Considering that he was allegedly on board with having a child, it was his responsibility to be there for her or to make things as easy as possible. It probably became an impossible dilemma in his head.
His compromising personality that his wife often disrespectfully described as his ‘lack of balls,’ led him to that place.
I am sure that he wanted out, but knew that leaving her to fend for herself would mean retribution on the long run. It is pretty obvious that he also realized that a divorce would not be smooth sailing with his wife, that wars would rage on social media and that his job and Kessinger’s would be at risk once she found out about their affair.
She had every reason to be pissed about this. I tend to believe Chris when he told his dad that the night of the tragedy, his wife told him, and justifiably so, ‘Fuck you, Fuck you, and Fuck you!’
She was already firing texts saying that she would fight him for full custody and would kick him out on arrival. I do not imagine someone like Shan’ann relinquishing custody of the girls; even on a part time basis with their dad. If forced by the court, would she have poisoned the girls against her former husband?
He had confided in Kessinger that the girls had started to repeat some mean things their mom was throwing at him, aside from the chicken nuggets.
It would have been easier to regain their respect and be more firm with them once divorced, and in his new surrounding. And in his own interest to see a psychotherapist during the transition.
When they flew back home to Colorado, things had somehow simmered down and Shan’ann went to Arizona for a few days on a business trip with her usual suspects.
Chris spent time with his girls, but saw Kessinger in the evening.
He was in love and ready to fly the coop. But I am not sure that he was thinking straight. As punch drunk in love as he was, he had to know that his dream would never materialize.
Nichol would find out that his wife was pregnant sooner than later and she would leave.
And considering his type of personality, trying to be a single parent, especially with a newborn infant, pay child support and maintain a good relationship with his ex may have appeared insurmountable at the time.
He used to pay with gift cards and coupons when he took his mistress out, but now, he was paying with his credit card sending red flags to Shan’ann as he knew it would.
The same way he had parked the Lexus at the airport before going to join his family in North Carolina for the last week of their trip. She was pretty mad about that.
He was not allowed either to park his truck in the driveway like the neighbors did, and her car had to be in the garage. No questions asked.
Shan’Ann’s return flight from Arizona was delayed and she returned home just before 2am on August 13. She was exhausted and her friend Nickole Atkinson drove her home from the airport. She saw her enter the home and wave goodbye. That is the last time she was seen.
What came next was shrouded in mystery, but now that Watts has been visited by a Colorado team and gave a deposition to the investigators, we will hopefully know more.
I personally had a hard time believing that he had planned to kill his wife and daughters that night, but the interview might reveal the facts. His letters sure have but it is hard to believe anything the man says at this juncture.
Chris knew that the neighbor had a video camera that would capture his truck. But he backed it up anyway into the opening of the garage, and loaded his family in the back seat on the driver’s side, knowing that the camera would catch him doing the deed even if not completely.
He left at around 5:30am to dispose of the bodies at the Cervi 319 field where he worked that morning.
He also knew that his work vehicle was equipped with a GPS that would detail his every move. The company was adamant about their employees using their truck only to get to work and back home. They knew if you used your cell phone.
Because of this GPS, the detectives knew exactly where he had stopped to dispose of the kids’ blankets. They described to him, the color of the garbage bin.
Disposing of his family meant that he would get caught. There was no way out. They would have found his wife’s body right away, and DNA evidence in the house and his truck.
The motion detector next door and their security system would have indicated that the garage did not open and his wife’s Lexus never left, and that nobody picked them up.
Plus, the car seats were still in the car and Shan’ann would have never let the girls ride in an automobile without them.
There was no way for the girls and their mother to have walked out of the house without being captured on camera. He would have been the prime suspect in a New York minute. The kidnapping scenario would have been laughable.
Was anyone supposed to believe that his wife could have left through the back door on foot with the 2 girls never to be seen again? Even if Chris had been allowed enough time to get rid of her phone and keys, this is a woman who talked to her dad every day of the year and never cut contact with anyone.
It was never going to be a situation where the police would not become deeply involved as well as all their friends and family. His mistress would have found out and ran. A family does not disappear out of thin air without a huge and dramatic hoop-la. How could he plan this if he was of sound mind?
Yes, Nickole Atkinson accelerated the process by calling the cops early in the day when she could not reach her friend and worried that she could have passed out in the house, but he would have been caught even without her blessed intervention.
Chris finished work early afternoon. The shit was going to hit the fan a few hours later anyway.
If he was not crazed, why did he not bring her purse, phone, keys and sheets? Everything was left in the house. He brought his lunch and thermos and a gas can but he did not think of collecting some of the evidence to dispose of it?
His wife was supposed to drop the girls at daycare and go to the doctor. She missed both appointments. It was not going to be ignored by her entourage.
How on earth would he have got rid of all the evidence after work? He would have been captured on camera taking the Lexus out. They would have seen it. And cleaning his truck would have been the kiss of death and so suspicious in itself. Plus, according to company’s policy, his family had never been allowed to ride in his truck and their DNA was now all over it.
Ignoring his wife and girls’ absence would have been suspicious in itself.
The guy was far from an idiot. They called him rain man at work and he was known for his incredible photographic memory and book smarts.
He called Primrose to notify them that Bella would not attend the first day of school on the 20th and both girls would not attend daycare anymore because they were selling the house. He also asked if they were there because they were supposed to be back in daycare that day. How would it not be a red flag?
In a way, his actions said it all. They could not afford the school, the new baby and the house. His wife had total control of their finances. When he tried to discuss it with her, she dismissed him and did not cut back, and she alienated his family again and refused them access to the girls. So he pulled the plug.
Shan’ann always was the one to deal with these matters, and why would he notify them that morning?
He also called the real estate agent. In his mind, they were selling the house and the girls were not attending school anymore so their financial woes were over. It sounds pretty out there to me.
The guy buried his wife in a shallow grave at work and left a sheet from the house and garbage bags on the ground nearby. Talk about leaving DNA behind. Who does that?
He threw his girls in two different oil tanks and there was hair left on the rim. Who leaves that kind of evidence or even does that if not crazed?
A monster you will say, but I do not really subscribe to this notion. His actions were monstrous but the man had to be in a state to accomplish this horror show.
I think that Shan’ann was ready to rumble when she came home because of the card charge for the dinner for two and words were exchanged. The way he described killing her in a rage makes sense to me. He jumped on her back, and she did not stand a chance.
He also told a reporter that ”she barely let me…” and he stopped himself.
Why would he also kill the girls? Because there was no way he could carry their mother out of the house without alerting them. He could not back the truck into the garage without waking them. He could have never explained why the girls were left alone at home. His wife would have never left without them. And according to his recent confession, Bella did wake up and asked what he was doing to mom.
Christina who lived with them for months said that you had to tiptoe upstairs. The girls were light sleepers and just parking in the driveway or opening the garage door meant they would wake up. Plus, Bella would get up in the early morning to come in their bed.
It appears that they were collateral damage.
There was no way out for him aside from giving himself up. And if he called the cops, the girls would witness the scene, and end up living with their grandparents with a dead mom and a dad in prison.
It was a series of very selfish actions meant to protect his ass from the slammer, and maybe the deluded notion that he was sparing his girls from this tragedy.
I never bought the state’s theory of the girls being killed before their mother came home because we know that the first thing their mother would have done after coming home is check on them, and Chris would have been in for the fight of his life if she had found the girls dead.
From the look of it, Shan’ann did not defend herself so she was either sleeping or taken by surprise and immobilized. Otherwise, as her father said, she would have kicked him to Kingdom Come to save her life and her babies.
He tried to postpone the inevitable, but gave up soon enough. He could have easily refused to talk to the cops or demand an attorney. He could have dismissed the request for a polygraph. He did none of that. That is how unprepared he was.
How could anyone believe that he thought for a minute that his mistress would stick around after he would announce to her the ‘disappearance’ of his entire family?
She dumped him as soon as she realized that the scenario made no sense and he had lied to her, and went to the cops.
The Confession and Sentencing
The fact that Chris Watts admitted his crime pretty quickly and decided to accept a plea deal for the murders of his pregnant wife and two daughters left the public in an impasse, but pleased the DA immensely.
They could then spin the story any which way they wanted. Chris Watts was a monster who premeditated the annihilation of his entire family, and he had no soul and remorse.
A prosecutor usually has the chance to pontificate during his opening and closing statements, but if there is a deal, it usually does not happen.
Michael Rourke, District Attorney of Weld County, took it upon himself to tell us all how it happened even if the defendant in this case, never said how and why.
It allowed him to connect some dots that did not totally fit and to portray Watts as an irredeemable man who had no mitigating factors whatsoever to excuse his actions. Not that his actions were not incredibly revolting, but to create that image of the boogeyman was not accurate.
Rourke and his acolytes did not want to try this case. With good attorneys, there were several lines of defense. And Shan’ann would have been put through the wringer. It would have cost a fortune, and the media would have been omnipresent.
It would have been an uphill battle, but there was the matter of the abusive relationship his family witnessed and resented. The fact that we cannot say for sure when and how they were killed. If he had decided to stick to the ‘my wife did it’ scenario, it might have had some mileage, considering his stellar background, and the fact that his parents and some friends could have testified to some embarrassing things.
I suspect that they never published anything from Cindy Watts and her daughter Jamie for this very reason.
I am sure that her family did not want her name dragged through the mud. And the DA wanted to keep this one tight and easy.
Chris Watts confessed almost right away. He did not ask for an attorney, did not refuse to talk to the cops or to take a polygraph, and did not try to suck his parents dry so they would buy him a good defense.
And he finally took a plea to spare everyone the aggravation.
Was he in his right mind when he accepted a plea after spending all those weeks in isolation? I do not know. All I know is that the guy’s tendency not to defend himself prevailed.
Is it what a hardcore monster would have done? NO
It allowed Rourke to say for certain that Chris had made arrangements on Sunday during the children’s party to work at Cervi 319 because he was plotting the demise of his girls and wife.
Sorry, but he had heard his colleague talk about the leak on Friday and had suggested it then. Maybe it was to avoid seeing Kessinger at the office in case he might not have had the guts to tell his wife he was leaving or maybe he just offered to go.
Or it could have been part of his great master plan. But it certainly was not as definite as Rourke presented it. Even Watts’ boss said it was not that unusual and a possibility. Chris was the type to do that.
Rourke also minimized their financial woes and presented them as average problems most couples have. What? They were losing the home and drowning in debts for the second time.
According to him, being due in court on August 24, 2018 because they were sued by their homeowners association for financial reasons, and a frequently unpaid mortgage after filing for Chapter 7 bankruptcy in 2015, was business as usual and not a pressure cooker for the man who had signed on the dotted line?
Not to mention the shrinking of his 401K and the incapacity of his wife to get her spending under control.
Having lunch with her friends several times a week, visiting the manicurist biweekly, going on trips when only the hotel was covered, enrolling her daughters in the most expensive daycare when she had supposedly quit her steady job to stay home; as if wishing for fortune would automatically make it happen according to the Secret school of thought. Not to forget the lack of propensity of her husband to say enough dear.
Brilliant deduction my dear Rourke!
The DA left no wiggle room at all for a crime of passion with diminished capacity because of the domestic circumstances. I am absolutely not saying he should not have gone to prison for a long time, but life without parole is the ultimate punishment for a man who probably will never be violent again. It was his first offense and his crimes were of domestic nature, and not directed at society.
The DA did not see fit to take blood samples of Watts to see if something was wrong. Was he taking something else on top of the Thrive bars, balls, tablets, shakes, Pure, Activate, Form, Burn duo and other garbage directly from this untested line of goodies from hell?
Not to forget that he was googling 80 mg of oxycodone during that period.
He affirmed that Bella had fought for her life, and it appears to be true. It is a fact that could have been contested at trial, but Watts has decided to come clean about his attack on his own daughter.
Rourke said that the alcohol level in Shan’ann’s system was because of decomposition, but not according to the specialist I consulted. It could have been a combination of both. Not that it matters if the woman had a few drinks because of the stress she was under, but it could have corroborated the possibility of the confrontation Chris described.
The way Chris described mascara on her face sounds pretty indicative of an emotional scene and would have been a difficult detail to make up and it seems to haunt him. Only a trial could have revealed if the stains and glitter we saw on their bed’s pillow case were from her makeup or not.
The credit card being declined after a purchase of hair care products at 2:30:am could indicate she was sitting in the den. But because it was simply a notification, it could have been from an automatic shipment or a from a purchase made earlier.
A friend of mine from Colorado mentioned how the judge had said that the Watts’ case was perhaps ‘the worst inhumane and vicious crime that he had handled.’
She agreed that it was true, morally speaking because it was his own family, but domestic violence is in a category of its own.
Unless he worked in traffic court, she did not believe that it was the most vicious thing he had ever seen as a judge. The disposal was heart wrenching, but only for the living.
There is also the fallacy of the plea saving Watts’ life.
Rourke and his band of brothers flew to North Carolina to talk to Shan’ann’s family and get them to accept the plea deal. They were all for it because it would close the case fast without more collateral damage, except for Chris of course.
The death penalty has been abolished in Colorado and at the time of the tragedy, existed only in name. The election of the new governor who was also against DP, meant there was no way Watts would have ever been executed.
In fact, death row would have been safer for him and with an automatic appeal.
He would have been eventually housed with less dangerous inmates because of their type of conviction, and could have eventually get some relief of his living conditions.
Not unlike Scott Peterson who lived in a special death row unit at San Quentin and is alive and well to this day. As of March 2019, further executions were halted in California by an official moratorium ordered by Governor Gavin Newsom. Since then, the California Supreme Court overturned his death penalty sentence and he is still fighting his conviction.
”A plea bargain is any agreement in a criminal case between the prosecutor and defendant whereby the defendant agrees to plead guilty or nolo contendere to a particular charge in return for some concession from the prosecutor. This may mean that the defendant will plead guilty to a less serious charge, or to one of the several charges, in return for the dismissal of other charges; or it may mean that the defendant will plead guilty to the original criminal charge in return for a more lenient sentence.”
None of this happened in this specific case. His deal was no deal.
US Toughest on Crime
In Canada, we do not have the death penalty. Life used to be 25 years without parole and in certain instances, inmates were declared dangerous offenders which meant that they would never set foot out of prison.
It has toughened somehow, but our judges continue to take factors into consideration when they hand out a sentence. You can read this article about the sentencing of Bruce McArthur who killed eight men between 2010 and 2017 and is considered very dangerous and a serial killer.
His guilty plea and age were deciding factors in his 25 year sentence before parole.
Andrew Berry from Victoria BC, murdered his two daughters on Christmas morning 2017 and was found guilty of two counts of second degree murder. He also stabbed himself but survived his injuries.
He stabbed both girls numerous times and hit one of them with a baseball bat.
He pleaded not guilty and during his testimony, blamed his ex, his family, and an alleged loan shark in spite of the glaring evidence against him. He expressed no remorse, and did cost the crown a fortune for his trial and will no doubt appeal his sentence. He faces a mandatory life sentence, with a minimum of 10 to 25 years before becoming eligible for parole.
After being consulted by the judge, 6 jurors recommended Andrew Berry serve 15 years before parole eligibility for killing each of his daughters, served consecutively. 2 jurors recommended no parole for 10 years for each count, served concurrently. 4 jurors made no recommendation. The judge will ultimately decide.
Jacob Forman has been sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole for 35 years after pleading guilty to the murders of his wife and two daughters. The Kelowna-area man learned his fate in B.C. Supreme Court just 11 days after he entered surprise guilty pleas to the second-degree murder of wife Clara and the first-degree murders of his daughters Karina and Yesenia.
Murder comes with a mandatory sentence of life in prison. The judge opted to give Forman 10 years’ parole ineligibility for the murder of his wife and 25 years for his daughters, to be served consecutively.
Details of how Forman bludgeoned his wife and choked his two young daughters to death in their home two years ago were read out to a packed courtroom.
He started by pleading not guilty because he was an alcoholic, but finally decided to admit the deed.
Watts spared everyone a trial. He expressed remorse. And he was not a recidivist. I find the US quite trigger happy when it comes to their justice system.
The Tyranny of Social Media
I read many cruel comments about Watts being tortured, raped, starved in prison, and hopefully murdered. People want him dead, and act and sound like he did something to them personally.
A pack of social media hyenas started a petition to have the photos of his family removed from his cell. They will be ignored by the correctional institution, but how so primitive of them.
Not surprisingly, some of the mainstream media ran with it and announced that Watts has photos of his trophy killings in his cell. Even Nancy Disgrace is still peddling that kind of stuff after her show was cancelled on HLN. Just to stir the fire and get ratings. Bunch of sanctimonious hypocrites if you ask me.
Sorry folks, but this is not how a civilized nation behaves. It is unconstitutional. The state has the right to take your freedom, but not to torture you.
In the name of victims they have never met, they want him to answer to them. A woman wrote ”I won’t rest till he tells me what he did to his family.”
When his mom told him touchingly during his sentencing that she forgave him and would love and support him forever as God would, comments popped up about how she had no right to do that because what he did was unforgivable. Who do they think they are?
If it bothers you that Chris Watts eats sweet cakes from the commissary, go back and watch your favorite reality TV show instead.
And the ones accusing Nichol Kessinger of being an accomplice and the reason he killed his family should take a crash course in presumption of innocence and due process. The only thing she is guilty of is to have believed that a married man would leave his wife. She told cops “I legitimately think his cheese was sliding off his cracker long before he met me.”.
In his blog, Detective Baumhover who was part of the investigation, discussed being accused of retiring because he was upset that the department had covered up her involvement.
To this he said: “Probably the most ridiculous topic I heard is that I retired because I’m upset over some law enforcement involvement conspiracy to cover up Nichol Kessinger supposed criminal involvement in this case because her father is wealthy. Stop and think for a minute about how stupid that sounds and really is. An entire family was annihilated and no amount of money would have stopped the investigation and silenced me (or anyone) about some alleged LE conspiracy to cover things up. The idea of that is completely idiotic.”
Chris thought he was in love with her, but was not ready because of the usual problems associated with a divorce and his wife pregnancy. Yes, she deleted her phone messages and fibbed out of fear, but did not do anything criminal. She knew that the minute it came out, she would lose her job and be in the middle of a firestorm.
Who wants to get caught being the lover of a guy who killed his family? And she was as shocked as the rest of the world. She believed him to be a great guy at the time and thought that his successful wife was on board with the divorce.
Boorish people attacking her on social media for asking cop about changing her name.
She wanted to erase embarrassing messages talking about sex and nude photos and she mostly did not want to lose a job that she loved.
She never pushed the guy into anything, except maybe into keeping his word about the divorce. She certainly was not going to stick around and be taken for a ride if he was not telling her the truth about divorcing his wife. I do not see that as an invitation to murder.
And even if it said in the police report that she had googled Shan’ann on September 1st, 2017, they admitted later on that it was a typo; it was 2018, which made total sense considering what went on.
“Nichol was hired by Geotech that contracted her to Anadarko only FOUR months before the tragic murders (see police interview transcript confirming employment date). That puts her at Anadarko some time in May 2018. The 1st email she sent to Chris (saved on the company’s servers) was on June 5th, regarding log-in credentials for a safety app the company used. She was a new employee at this time.” You can click to read the article from Crimelights.
Amanda Purcell, the supervisor of the Frederick Police Department Records confirmed that it was a typographical error. Plus, as most of us know, all her messages were retrievable. They do have the technology to retrieve erased emails, texts and times of phone calls from your computer and your cell phone, and it told them that she was involved in an affair, but not in any way in the murders.
We will never know the content of their phone conversations and it is fine by me.
As if she would have wanted to kill a mother and her two little girls. The woman was not a criminal. If involved, she would have never left a trail and erased it at the last minute. It is plain insanity, and comes directly from the minds of those who see crime as a replacement for their favorite soap operas.
She was not stalking Shan’ann. Maybe she was curious, but this is not a crime.
She was not lying when she said that she did not know he was married when they first talked. The first 3-4 times they had a conversation, he was not wearing his wedding ring; he says that it is because he lost weight, but it is easy to see that she could have thought he was single at the time.
When he eventually told her he was married and showed her pictures of his daughters, she sent him this work email on June 12th, 2018 ”It is always nice to find someone you can relate to. I enjoy talking to you too. I feel understood. I am looking for someone to build a beautiful life with. Build something similar to what you have done with your wife and those cute little girls. I believe in karma so out of of respect for myself, you and your family, I think it’s best if we keep this friendship at work.” And Chris answers the same day with ” I do believe in karma so I agree with that as well.
It obviously developed into an affair when he told her that his relationship was broken, and he was divorcing. She admitted that she should have waited, but the guy was seeing her 5 times a week for 6 weeks, so how was she supposed to know that it was not because he felt free to see her because of the eminent divorce?
I resent how she is being called North Korea all over social media by grown adults who should know better, and that the official documents released mention that she was watching porn and a video on how to prepare for anal before seeing Chris.
Or the tacky comments from the person who wrote the report about her creepy giggles, and how she had visited several porn sites, Wink Wink Nudge Nudge. How unprofessional.
And to jump to conclusions because she had googled wedding dresses is off the rack considering that it could have been for one of her friends upcoming nuptials.
It was inflammatory and hypocritical. She is also a victim of this tragedy and of the ignorance of certain social media lynch mobs.
It seems that when she realized what was crashing down on her, she googled Amber Frey and checked her book deal. Considering the similarities and how people have been trying to destroy her, it might not be surprising at all.
She became unemployed the minute this storm hit and told cops ” I lost my job. At first they said it was fine. A day later they let me go because my contract was up. I have a feeling that trying to get by for the next 5 to 10 years is gonna be really hard.”
I am not keen on the fact that she was letting Chris cover their dinner bill knowing his financial problems, but aside from that, the woman has no physical involvement in the tragedy, and it is not our place to judge her.
It is the media that should be blamed for making deals with people involved in crimes, but I would be the first one to criticize Kessinger if she ever pulled an Amber Frey on this case and hired one of the Allreds’ money hounds to boost her bank account.
When I wrote blogs for the website All Things Crime Blog, the owner of the site, Patrick Moore, who used to work as a College professor, PI, and is now a Court Consultant in LA, wrote when he closed shop that he had enjoyed delving into the True Crime experience, but would not miss the cruelty of rape comments like ‘I hope he bends down to pick up the soap in the shower‘ and other pearls of wisdom about inmates.
His policy was to post each and every comment, and the comment section often looked and sounded like a battlefield.
He also imparted some wisdom on me: accepting that in several instances, we will never know what really happened in a case, and it is OK and better than making up the ending according to our gut feelings or bias.
People insist on owning the right to the truth.
There are great divisions in what people believe about this case: Watts was planning the murders alone or his mistress helped or pressured him, Shan’ann killed the girls and Chris killed her afterwards, she is angel and he is demon, the girls were killed first, they were alive in the truck, they are average people plagued by mental and financial trouble. etc.
Videos abound on the case, from a Mukbang where you see a woman gorge on poutine and roasted chicken tell you about the case with her mouth full, recreations of the attacks by a dad jumping his own son to choke him on camera, new found ”evidence” consisting of shadows implying that two people loaded the truck.
In spite of the autopsy results clearly indicating otherwise, some TV show hosts invent new details like Chris broke the girls’ bones to put them in the tanks. Or he was having several affairs.
Bella had abrasions and there was a question about her jaw that turned out to be gas and not a fracture. Not to say that her death was not horrific, but let us stick to facts and evidence.
Not to forget the psychics and spatial communications with the victims and the fake lovers whose legitimacy was denied by the DA’s office, but still appear in the media. How could they all be right?
As I have no dog in this race, I will always be open to new evidence, but even if Chris Watts himself told me that he premeditated the crimes, I would still see him as a human being who lost his way, and was not in his right mind at the time; for reasons we might never be able to comprehend.
He is still someone’s son and his actions have not only destroyed his family, but they have also damned him and so many others to hell for life.
Shan’ann’s parents think the devil was at play, but I believe on many levels that thriving might have been the devil in disguise.
Shan’ann had chosen Le-Vel as her new family, and Chris in his new found lunacy, tried to find his.
Music & Religion are lifelines in prison. Metallica and the Bible might become his constant companions.
I paid my dues in the cell
Be the toll of the bell
Dearly beloved
We gathered here today
To say goodbye to our old selves – Metallica
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Update
On February 18, 2019, a Colorado team of investigators descended on the Dodge Correctional Institution in Waupun, Wisconsin to surprise Chris Watts; FBI Special Agent Graham Coder, Frederick Police Department Detective Dave Baumhover, and CBI Agent Tammy Lee. They were no strangers to Chris who had met them during the investigation in Frederick.
To say that Watts was surprised is an understatement. We can ascertain that it was a carefully planned ambush on their part. They knew that if they had announced their visit ahead of time, he would have certainly refused to talk to them after consulting his family who is a bit savvier than their gullible son; a fact well-known to the team.
The transcript from the FBI about this meeting went as follow: “We activated our covert digital recording devices and also used several covert video recording devices”.
Any attorney would have shut down this shit show right away. The same thing that his parents were told when they tried to talk to their son before he took a plea. ‘’You raise the subject, and we shut this conversation down right away.’’
The group flew and traveled through snowy roads and sounded pretty rattled by the cold weather and conditions. That is how determined they were to talk to Watts.
And as mentioned in the comment section ”I found it interesting they waited 6 months, almost to the day, from the arrest to do this post-conviction palaver.”
Tammy had never visited her own brother when he lived in the area, but she was now showing up at the prison bright-eyed and bushy tailed to talk to Chris. Their first move was to ‘befriend’ him and assure him that the investigation/case was closed, but they were coming in simply to get more useful information to improve their techniques for future cases. Yeah right.
They sounded like old friends coming for a visit and made sure to tell Watts that he was such a special guy that he could help them figure out cases that could have similarities to his because of his unique character.
As he was arrested before they could squeeze the lemon even more, they still had unanswered questions but assured him that they did not want to take him to a dark place. REALLY? How much darker could they get than offering him tissue for his tears when talking about the murder of his family? They said that he was not forced to talk to them, but they would appreciate if he would.
Complete hogwash stemming from the Reid technique, but it worked once so they were going to try it again.
Confession Schmonfession
It is a well-known fact that cops lie during an interrogation and investigation. They are entitled to misrepresent the truth or the evidence to obtain a confession. But as the Watts’ case is closed and the plea deal has been accepted, how could they ethically assure him that it was a social call?
They plainly lied when they told him that the photo he did not want them to take, would never end up on social media and that the content of their conversation would remain within the department.
They went as far as asking him what he wanted them to do with the information he revealed. He wanted to inform his parents himself first (they were not coming for months) and certainly was not on board for a Dr. Phil special and the planetary dumping of the transcripts and audio tape of his pseudo confession.
And I call bullshit on their statement about the Rzuceks still loving Chris. The two Franks wanted the death penalty and I stopped counting how many times Frank called him a monster during his victim impact statement. Sandra did not because of her religious zeal, but I also suspect that this sharp Italian lady knew what would be coming her way in case of a trial and wanted to protect the memory of her daughter.
And what about telling him that the family wanted to hear the truth and keep it private?
He was in no way under oath during the exchange and they had no way to assess his mental capacity when he came to the visiting room or the veracity of his statements.
The guy was arrested, on suicide watch while detoxing from Thrive and coming down from the adrenaline of the tragedy, in complete isolation afraid of being killed, transferred in an assessment wing where he finally felt semi-safe and he is supposed to be stable enough to spring the truth on them?
The Reid Technique
The Reid Technique is a trademark of John E. Reid, an American polygraph expert who figured out a 9 Step formula of psychological manipulation.
The Reid technique is widely used in North America and consists in an interrogation with an accusatory process. Nobody is innocent until proven guilty.
The composure of the interrogator is understanding, patient, and non-demeaning. The goal is to make the suspect progressively more and more comfortable with acknowledging the truth about what they’ve done. This is accomplished by the interrogator first imagining and then offering the subject various psychological constructs as justification for their behavior.
In the case of Watts, they offered him Shan’ann as the guilty party and he ran with it, probably out of fear and desperation. He admitted as much during their recent visit. He told them that he would have never thought of it, had they not suggested it.
‘’The physical layout of an interrogation room is designed to maximize a suspect’s discomfort and sense of powerlessness from the moment they step inside. The classic interrogation manual Criminal Interrogation and Confessions, which was co-written by John Reid, recommends a small, soundproof room with only two or three chairs, a desk, and nothing on the walls. This creates a sense of exposure, unfamiliarity, and isolation. It heightens the suspect’s “get me out of here” sensation throughout the interrogation.’’
The Reid Technique is on its way out in North America. It has created a rift between police and communities. It is believed that a high percentage of false confessions in the US stem from this type of interrogation. You can only think of what happened to Brendan Dassey (Making a Murderer) during his own interrogation to understand the mistrust that exists.
This technique is commercially marketed to police departments and other law enforcement agencies with the promise that 80 percent of those interrogated will confess.
Other countries like England have rejected the Reid technique in favor of other methods like PEACE that uses the premise of being innocent until proven guilty. Click to read about it.
- Preparation and Planning
- Engage and Explain
- Account, Clarify and Challenge
- Closure
- Evaluation
As we saw and heard during his initial interrogation, agent Tammy Lee first asked background questions to establish personal information about Watts so that she could ‘evaluate’ him. She then asked “behavior-provoking” questions intended to elicit responses. She should have NEVER administered a polygraph right after when according to Watts himself, his ”mind was mush.”
It was all well and done but let me just say that Watts was an easy mark. This method would have never worked on someone like Patrick Frazee or Ted Bundy. It did not even work on Trent Bolte who kept lying and did not give them an inch. Practically any method would have worked on Watts
As mentioned in my blog, he could have remained silent, asked for an attorney and refused the polygraph. His nature and feelings of guilt led him to that quick confession.
He folded faster than anyone in the annals of Colorado criminal history. According to the agents, it was too fast, and the reason why they were coming back for more.
What is unacceptable is that they came back to Wisconsin with the same approach when the case was closed, and that he was not offered to talk to an attorney or his family ahead of time.
In his haste to get rid of this hot potato of a case, Rourke accepted the plea without a detailed confession. His fault. What they are doing now is trying to get the details through the back door because of the constant rumble about this case being rushed and maybe not as simple as portrayed.
Now You See It Now you Don’t
After the plea deal that Colorado was so eager to accept and convince the Rzuceks to go along with, the rumor mill started. Many were unhappy with the fact that Chris might have confessed to the 3 murders when in fact, his wife could have been the culprit for the girls; a theory that originated from the authorities.
As he never divulged the reasons for the murders and many theories floated around, some people, including his family, thought he was taking the rap out of guilt.
Even Shan’ann’s parents said recently that they were not told everything about the case before they read their victim impact statement in court. Rourke was in a rush to get this done and readily accepted that the video of Chris’ truck showed him taking out 3 bodies and loading them in on the passenger’s side. Were they all going to swear to that in court? They now have legal eggs on their faces.
He is now readily ‘accepting’ the shadows as facts. Come on man, this is not scientific either.
Some Youtubers had noticed the shadow of a child being picked up but it was ignored because the case was CLOSED. And let us be real, the monetized Youtubers saw many other things on their screen so it took away from their credibility and we had no clue if it was manipulated or edited to attract traffic.
Frankie Junior Rzucek assured the social media world that they had SEEN the three bodies taken to the truck in a clearer video. Rourke had mentioned it in court. What else was there to say or see? A lot it seems.
Come out to the Coast and Confess your Crimes And Die Hard
At his sentencing, Watts who was shaking and crying, was judged to be remorseless by Rourke who predicted that he would never tell the why and how of the crimes. His parents urged Chris to eventually tell the truth with the assistance of his legal team, and to atone.
Apparently, he had already told his attorneys the truth before the plea and had decided not to put up a defense of his own accord. As his attorneys are bound by secrecy, we cannot verify this information.
It surprised many.
But the confession they were asking of him to atone and bring closure to the people impacted by the tragedy, was not welcome when it allegedly came out of the horse’s mouth. The awful so called truth he revealed was too difficult to hear. I sounds like they would have preferred to hear their scenario of choice.
So, he was supposed to confess to his crimes to bring closure, but instead of being grateful, they organized a social and TV media campaign to call him an even bigger monster.
Yes, that is how they roll in Colorado. Now that Watts had finally found a place in Wisconsin where he could atone and find some small ways to make amends, they basically blew their dog whistle to make sure the signal would be heard to go attack Watts. Not very conducive to confessions and rehabilitation, is it?
As a proponent of due process with no exception to the rule for high profile criminals, I am appalled at what the Colorado authorities did and it goes without saying, at the media’s gross indecency in the matter.
And I am perplexed by the Rzuceks’ actions. They jumped on the Dr. Phil bandwagon to propagate hearsay and fake headlines before the transcripts could even be released; after the Colorado team told Watts that the family wanted to keep the content of the conversation private.
And using little Bella in the process is appalling; with headlines and promos edited in a way to let the viewers believe that she saw her mom being strangled.
What happened to this poor child is horrific enough without turning it over to Dr. Phil who made sure it would become a huge sensationalized Ka-Ching event. The man is not certified and has no credentials whatsoever to call Watts a malignant narcissist or to affix any labels on anyone. He is probably more qualified to play pin the donkey.
And who says this confession was the real one?
Phil exploits tragedies and had already lied about many aspects of the case on the air. He also loves to invite the likes of Nancy Disgrace on his show knowing full well that she has been sued countless times for lying about a case or an alleged culprit.
So why pick him for the big unverified reveal? Maybe because of the huge ratings and the fact that they were dissatisfied with the 20/20 interview that did not demonize Kessinger or did not spend enough time outlining the virtues of their daughter.
In spite of the fact that Chris confirmed that Kessinger had nothing to do with the crimes and that it is pretty clear to anyone who has studied the case, Phil brought it up anyway for more drama, and did not see fit to correct or question Sandra when she said that NK googled her daughter before she even knew Chris.
Kessinger started her contract with Anadarko in April/May 2018. No excuse for Dr. Phil on this one. Has he ever heard of fact checking?
My big ‘Give Me a Break’ moment was when Sandy went as far as mentioning “all that porn” as if it was a mortal sin. Watts confessed, Shan’ann’s reputation is saved, and Frank junior questionable lifestyle flew under the radar, so time to stop and mourn in peace.
As heartbreaking as their situation is, and their pain palpable, that media appearance was troubling, to say the least.
The Veracity of Watts’ Statements
We have no way of checking the veracity of Chris’ statements about the death of his family. I suspect that he might not even understand himself the why of this tragedy and that his memory is probably spotty on many details. He could be making up scenarios in his own mind.
It appears that the Colorado team was eager to have him deny any kind of mitigating circumstances by asking him the questions directly and at times, suggesting answers.
The content of my blog about the case still stands and many of its conclusions or observations were confirmed by Watts even if sometimes in a roundabout way.
Chris is no doubt a strange bird; a man with a very high IQ, but the demeanor of a boy with an eerie passivity reminiscent of the classic movie Being There. In this case, the movie could be called Not Being There. A guy more than likely emotionally deranged since the tragedy, and unable to connect the dots of his life.
He had a moment of clarity when the red sea parted in July 2018, and the real Chris seemed to emerge for a while and be able to see things for what they were. But since his coping mechanism was so deficient and the ending became so apocalyptic, he ceased to exist and desisted.
The awakening was fleeting and has since vanished to give way to muddy waters. He has reverted to the old Chris who is under Shan’ann’s thumb and even misses her cooking. Almost like a depersonalization disorder with a sense of detachment from oneself and one’s identity.
It is probably out of guilt and fear of blaming the victim, which is quite normal under these cruel circumstances.
Some details were confirmed by Watts that we can finally check off the list: He did not have affairs outside his marriage, and it is confirmed by the authorities. Nikki was the only one and he was in love. She had nothing to do with the crimes. Yes, she was a catalyst because he finally felt like he could come out of his shell and be himself with her, and his love for her blinded him and drove him away from his family.
The pregnancy was so fast that he was not ready and he was scared. The financial burden and the rift caused by his wife with his family since their wedding also reared its ugly head in North Carolina. The abscess was bursting.
Every time the investigators asked him a direct question that could have been a mitigating factor, he negated it but went on to explain exactly the contrary. Did he feel belittled by Shan’ann? Not really, but he goes on to explain that he was always nervous around her. Walked on egg shells. Emotional abuse can implants time bombs.
Did he like being in her videos? He hated it. Could he have refused to do them? She would have been mad. It was for the good of the family. So yes, he was belittled. We all saw it. And his parents deplored it.
Was it hard to live with the Rzuceks for 16 months? Not really, but Shan’ann was always upset. They had blow-ups, could not wake up Sandra early in the morning because there would be hell to pay. They had no intimacy. So yes, it was a pain.
When asked about his bankruptcy, he said that he never thought it could happen to him. He admitted that their wedding had been put on credit cards and they were carrying the debts. But he does not see the link with his mother Cindy trying to tell him that a $12,000 engagement ring was too expensive, and they did not need a big home they could not afford. So, yes, his mom was right and was trying to sound the alarm about their finances.
It was not about jealousy or bursting Shan’ann’s bubble or discourage her from dreaming big, it was about common sense and self-preservation. You can be ambitious and achieve your goals, but overspending and digging a financial hole for yourself is not the way to do it. Once again, where was Chris during all this? He had his head in the sand as usual.
He thought that his wife had mailed the money they owed for their house maintenance fees at the wrong address for a year? She was not paying it. They were due in court in August. How naive was he?
Thrive
When asked about Thrive and the patches his parents have been trying to examine and blame partly for this debacle, he is nonchalant. But then, he goes on to say that with the Burn Duo, his Apple watch indicated that he was working out all the time when he was not. His heart rate was elevated. The guy was not sleeping on top of that.
He was not himself he says. “This was like the epitome of being angry, the epitome of showing a rage, the epitome of losing your mind,” he says. He does not see that he was affected by it all. Really Chris? It is called a state of rage and psychosis.
‘‘Psychoses rank among the most severe mental illnesses. An international team of researchers under the guidance of the University of Bonn has now found out that after 24 hours of sleep deprivation in healthy patients, numerous symptoms were noted which are otherwise typically attributed to psychosis or schizophrenia.” Dr Ulrich Ettinger
He wonders how Le-Vel can make money by being so generous. Really? $800 for a luxury car payment for $12,000 monthly sales is peanuts and a trap to make sure you reach the same monthly goal not to lose your car. And it was not tax-free Chris. Your wife was putting the money for daycare and not paying the mortgage.
Shan’ann had convinced him that because he once sold a vehicle before paying it out, he did not know how to handle money. This is how you repay a debt; you sell the item and refund the lender. He had been on his own for 7 years before her and had impeccable credit. Wake up and smell the coffee Chris.
Save Me
It is not only his family that needed to be saved, it was also Chris. He is obviously of very weak mind and his brain does not function as the average Joe. A type of high intelligence with an almost rain man behavior. He spent his entire life being helpful, patient and kind, devoted and preoccupied by others and suddenly he is a child and wife killer?
Some believe that it is simply a mask and that he has been on automatic pilot at nurturing speed all his life, and that the ‘real’ Chris came out when he killed his family, but I do not really see facts supporting this notion. There would have been signs; there are always signs.
But I guess much had been missed about the circuitry of this man’s brain and maybe he was some kind of empty shell, a primal guy wanting sex, food and family until it became too complicated and he jumped ship not knowing how to deal with the situation.
But it is difficult to ignore that this prop loved and desired a family, treated everyone with kindness, and was never cruel to animals or humans, until that fateful day.
Douglas Fields is a neuroscientist & science writer, and the author of Why We Snap & The Other Brain. His scientific research is on cellular mechanisms of brain development & memory. This is an excerpt from an interested article he published on the subject in The Independent.
” I am a neuroscientist, and after witnessing my violent reflexes explode without conscious deliberation, I was propelled on a quest to understand the disturbing behavior of suddenly “snapping” aggressively – to freeze that moment in time and look inside the brain to find out what is happening when sudden rage erupts without conscious control. The search took me into scientific laboratories around the world to learn the latest findings on the neuroscience of sudden anger and aggression, and into the field to meet extraordinary people who depend on this rapid-response neural reflex to perform aggressively in some of the most demanding and dangerous situations imaginable: secret-service agents, members of US Navy Seal team 6 and elite athletes engaged in extreme sports. I learnt that the brain is hardwired for sudden violence, and that we have these neurocircuits of rage because we need them. When the results are inappropriate or tragic, we call it “snapping”; but when the outcome is good, we call it “quick- thinking” or heroic. Either way, it is the same neural circuitry that is operating beneath the radar of our conscious mind.”
Snapping is not always the result of an instantaneous charge in the face of a threat. It can be the result of years of frustration and abuse or stress. It can result in seething resentment culminating in violence.
Emotional Abuse: The Devil’s Quiet Sister
”Emotional abuse aims to control, belittle, isolate and shame others into subservience. This happens little by little over time, so that the victim’s sense of self-worth, self confidence, self-concept and own ideas and perceptions erode.” Lonerwolf.com
Shan’ann was also in great need of help. She was also taking Thrive, did not sleep much and in financial dire straits without being willing to admit it. She probably could not tolerate Cindy and Jamie Watts because they were the voice of reason. If you were not part of her Magical Thinking Entourage, you were out.
Nobody seemed able to recognize that she had to be stopped and given professional help and advice.
Her pregnancy was not going to be something she could handle. Her girls were always in daycare or she had help from family and friends. How was she going to manage a baby with her business?
And what to say about Babywise? A method she was using ”forcing babies into a strict schedule at a young age in order to fit the parent’s that may sound convenient but is far from a scientifically validated approach to parenting.
Beyond what we now know about infant development and the natural and interactive complexity of self-regulation, emphasizing scheduling as the overarching value governing infant parenting denies what research has shown to be the most important dimensions of infant rearing: trust and attachment.”
They were losing the house so who was going to move in with them this time to save the day? Her lack of impulse control had gone unchallenged for too long, and an outside force needed to intervene and apply the brakes before the damage became irreversible.
Their lovely little girls were also in jeopardy because their mom used them as pawns in her petty wars, seemed to revel in their real or imaginary health problems and put them to bed at unreasonable hours without nurturing according to the Babywise method.
It did not take a genius to conclude that Bella was starving for her mother’s affection and seemed overjoyed when she would cover her with kisses even if it was for a video promoting Waterproof Lipstick. She always appeared to long for her touch and attention.
Their father who was losing it, failed to put his foot down to protect them every step of the way. Instead, he had an affair. They should have come first.
The labels that the likes of Dr Phil try to plaster on Watts are not fitting at all. This is not a malignant guy who was roaming the earth looking to hurt someone. It is a domestic situation that turned tragic because nobody could see what was brewing underneath the veneer of these two parents.
When The Rzuceks say that their daughter had a perfect life and was extremely happy, I scratch my head. Of course, we tend to glorify the life of the departed, but did they read her posts about living and breathing negativity that affected her husband and the kids? Did they watch her videos?
Weren’t they there when she was constantly sick and impatient? Didn’t they not know she was living way above her means? That she was losing the house?
Was leading Chris by the nose and belittling him and his family on social media their notion of extreme happiness? No doubt, there was happiness, but their daughter was in trouble financially and her association with Le-Vel was leading her down a dangerous path.
What appeared to be a nightmare for the Watts’ grandparents was paradise to them? Someone had to have held the wrong side of that stick, and it was not their daughter.
The Watts’ family had become an Optical Illusion. A Social Media construct. A Thrive Ad. And their friends and family had become badge wearing ‘Thrivers.’ It bordered on ridiculous to see them all with their stickers everywhere in order to please the Empress.
You only have to watch the video of Shan’ann’s attempt at staging the perfect Christmas with her unwilling family to see that it was a House of Cards where Pretty Mommy living in the big house treated Daddy and the Girls like props and was not afraid to insult them on camera if they did not follow directions.
For this construct, I tend to blame MLM companies like Le-Vel who cater to vulnerable people like Shan’ann by enabling their grandiose dreams based on impossibilities; especially long term. They fill their head with mantras and use them as work puppets while encouraging them to present a picture perfect image, but for their own personal gain.
She was the perfect candidate for their scheme; not highly educated, suffering from impulse control, insecurities, a touch of OCD, not to mention grandiose dreams of being rich.
So it is not surprising that she was trying to convey the image of a well dressed, happy and successful family even when the kids and husband were not on board and this was far from the reality.
I met this girl the other day and when me check her
She was, far from reality
I never knew that before i met her
She was, far far far away – Jah Guide
Instead of focusing on the beautiful reality of her family, she had been swallowed by the illusion of this construct and any intimate experience where you enjoy the simple things privately with friends and loved ones had given way to some kind of Show Must Go On existence where a gender reveal had to become a live feed on Facebook.
It had gone to a point where she would send her 3-year-old to chase a squirrel under the rain to entertain her audience. And would ask her ad nauseam if she was having fun when she clearly was not.
It was a very sad thing to witness that spoke volume about her state of mind.
Shan’ann was close to the finish line. She was going to crash pretty soon, and Le-Vel was not going to be there to pick up the pieces.
On a more primal level, her own husband was trying to flee this MLM construct before it blew up in his face. He was the one who had to sustain this financial nightmare, and the pot of gold was not going to be at the end of the Thrive Rainbow.
Only debts and financial ruins were on the horizon for the Watts and as a follower, Chris’ reflex had been to walk directly into another situation where his new love Nikki could lead the way, but to a more responsible path.
She was the opposite of his wife; healthy, financially responsible, fully employed, not living beyond her means, able to leave her phone aside, and she was letting him be himself. He finally had a voice and felt relaxed.
The ones who do not understand why he walked out of his marriage and into the arms of this woman have probably missed important elements of the narrative.
He could open up and exchange with Kessinger and confided that he was tired of being house poor and of seeing his wife squander his money. But he never bashed her. It was never disrespectful; contrary to what his wife was texting to her entourage behind his back.
I found it revealing when Kessinger told a cop that when she told Watts that ”Material things don’t make a home. It’s not about what it looks like, it is about the love and energy that you bring to the home”, he collapsed in her lap and gave her the biggest most genuine hug a man had ever given her and laid there. It showed the depth of his despair and his relief at discovering a person who did not see overspending as a sole source of happiness.
Santa Watts seemed mortified by the reaction of the girls being forced to sit on his lap and at being part of the filming of this future Facebook post. He even mumbled so to Frank who was, as usual, glued to the ‘broadcast.’
I do not endorse the commentary in this video but it is the only one left of the event on Youtube. The other videos without commentaries were removed for obvious reasons.
I agree with a lady who commented on the video that with hindsight, when Chris knocks at the door dressed as Santa, it looks like the prelude to a Horror movie. I would call it the Rising of the Prop.
I am also mystified by the fact that practically everyone is glorifying Sandra, but so many are putting down Cindy Watts. Both mothers are victims of this tragedy and had faults and qualities.
Chris said in no uncertain terms that the disciplinarian in his family was his father who was also his best friend. When asked if his marriage was like his parents, he said no, it mirrored Frank and Sandra. So maybe they should leave Cindy alone for a change and stop trying to say that she was the architect of their demise.
It seems that the Colorado gang did not bother talking to Cindy and Jamie Watts’ or if they did, they kept it close to the vest. If they were after the truth, why not get their insight? The conversations they had with Ronnie Watts were at the precinct and he had not witnessed any of the most recent incidents.
Apparently, Shan’ann had told Cindy that her mom and brother were bipolar. During the police interview, Frankie said that he had been depressed for years. Maybe they should have investigated the dynamics of both families to better understand what happened.
I wish that the changes happening within Chris could have been taken seriously instead of posted on Facebook as a joke by his wife. Oh look Chris is wearing Burn patches and he can’t stop!! How funny! I am not even sure that he understands himself what was going on. Thrive is great!
It seems that his highly criticized mistress is the only one who had the common sense to see that Chris did not sleep and was affected by something.
We can assume that his recent seething anger towards Shan’ann eventually turned into a monstrous blowout.
As I had mentioned in my blog, he probably went into self-preservation mode and took out the kids with her. Or maybe his anger was such that they were part of the collateral damage.
Since listening to his latest interview, I also came to the conclusion that not unlike his daughters who kind of detached from him because of their 5 weeks in NC with their mom and grandparents, he was also able to detach from his family. The month spent with Kessinger accomplished that. The difference is that it is normal for kids, but rare for adults to be able to do that.
He does not even seem to understand the rage that came over him. A lot of us kind of do. He describes dissociation. For same it is possession. To me, it is Thrive, lack of sleep and emotional duress that came crashing down on his less than normal mind.
The Intimacy
I doubt many of the statements he came up with about the murder of his family.
The way he described having sex with Shan’ann does not mesh. He had turned her down for weeks. She tried to seduce him to no avail. He had 112 minutes conversation with Nikki that night and it felt exclusive.
It is hard to believe that he would have had sex with his wife unless it was to appease her so she would fall asleep, and he would not have to confront her about the separation before early morning when he could escape by going to work afterwards.
She was still wearing her G-string when they found her. What woman puts back her underwear after sex with her husband? I can only imagine how difficult it would have been for Chris to put it back, especially if she had soiled herself as he described. And there would have been no reason to do so.
The bra makes sense because many pregnant women wear them to bed. The autopsy revealed no semen and they were not using contraceptive because of the pregnancy. Plus, she must have been fuming about the credit card charge when she came home. Not in the mood for sex.
I think that Nickole Atkinson was eager to talk to her friend Shan’ann in the morning and suspected the worst because she knew what kind of mood her combative friend was in when she came home late, tired, deprived of sleep and feeling unwell.
She probably will never tell the truth about it. Shan’ann’s entire circle of friends rallied around her and were saying fuck Chris if he has a mistress, take the house, we will help you. She was trying to rekindle the relationship out of desperation, but was also furious and ready to rumble about the credit charge.
And they wonder why he could not just walk away.
On the other hand, he called it a test that triggered him. Was he testing their intimacy to see how it would feel because of his confusion and fear of the consequences of a divorce? If true, did the strangeness of it all push him to finally tell her he was not in love anymore and wanted a separation?
Did it trigger Shan’ann to order him to never come back to the house and that he would never see the kids again? Any attorney could have told them that Colorado is a no fault state for divorce. There is no way he would have lost the kids or that she could have taken the house, but as Chris said, they were not in their right mind; rage and desperation are strange bedfellows.
He interjected something that rang true to me: He was afraid that he would be locked out of the house that day and that the kids would not be there anymore. Considering that he probably had nowhere to go and it was his house and his children, it might have lit the long fuse he mentioned.
The Truck
If you look at the back of the cabin of the truck, it seems impossible to have put the dead body of his wife on the floor board unless he lifted up the back seat She was too big and wide.
The kids could not have sat quietly on the back seat with their feet up resting on their dead mom. They had never ridden in an automobile without car seats before.
How could he have unloaded Shan’ann once at the field if he did not lift up the seat? It really makes no sense. The girls would have had to get out of the car for him to drag their mom out.
He would have had to start with the girls and once the back was empty, could have removed her more easily. It sounds so unrealistic and directly from the page of a cheap horror novel. On the other hand, it might support the crazed theory.
And the way he described them as alternately laying on each other does not really work with seat belts. He specifically said that Bella unbuckled herself when he went back to the car.
It is so hard to imagine that Bella, after witnessing the murder of her dear sister Cece, would have remained quiet and stayed in the truck while he disposed of her. It is like reading a Stephen King novel or the fake essay he wrote about spending the summer in Asia when he was in elementary school.
Even though the memory of Bella as well as her last words haunt him every day, he does not say a thing about Celeste. Only one alleged shadow of a child is seen on the video. I think it is quite possible that Celeste was smothered in her sleep at home. He could have gone to her room to do the deed and put her in the truck. According to the autopsy, she suffered a soft killing.
As I feared and mentioned in my blog, Bella was bound to get up and try to join her mom in bed. He allegedly told her that mom was not feeling well and they would take her to the doctor. In a sheet being dragged down the stairs?
The short video below could possibly show Chris picking up the shadow of a child.
In other videos, you clearly see him walk backward carrying a huge load. He also makes other trips but no signs of a live Cece. And I am not sure that the ‘shadow’ is Bella either. How can you trust a shadow? It could be his own reflection bending down to pick up something because he is facing the light.
I was the first one to throw shade at the ‘shadow videos’ published by a ridiculous guy I call the ‘Paypal Detective‘ whose thirst for donations is so strong that he stole the shadow alleged notion from someone else, and also put Kessinger in the driveway while spewing one absurd theory after another, constantly contradicting himself and even inventing secret informants.
But after listening to Watts’ statement and really looking at the video without loop, it is difficult not to isolate this little shadow.
Maybe Chris heard about the shadows’ video from his family and it sank into his brain, and he has now rewritten the scenario, but knowing how despised he is already, one has to wonder why he would come up with such a gruesome new story and make matters worse for himself if not true?
Plus, he told the Colorado team that he had confessed the same story to his defense team in September; the video was not even public at the time.
The soft killings scenario that was widely accepted could have been his salvation so it tends to give credence to his new version of events, at least partly.
They called Celeste rampage. She was now a 3-year-old who could speak. We witnessed her tears and fits on video. She was not one to be silent or quiet. Can we even imagine Cece in the back of the truck not yelling and screaming or trying to pull at her mother? It would have been a real screaming bonanza.
Her own mother described the wild plane ride home from North Carolina with Cece as an experience not to be repeated.
And she could not have been sleepy in the truck because her mother told a friend that Cece was up very early because she was still on North Carolina time.
Maybe Chris has eliminated the memories from his mind or cannot get himself to talk about them, but he could not have had two quiet children in the back of a truck with a dead mom under their feet. No way mommy would ever sleep or be sick on the floor board with black plastic bags on her head and feet.
Kids their age would know it makes no sense. It is gruesome beyond words. I bet the bags were to cover his truck or the girls.
I tend to believe that if Bella was alive, she had to be in the front and the two other dead members of the family on the back seat. It might explain why she would have asked her dad if he will do to her what he did to Cece.
She fought back and was the soft and easily frightened one. I recall several videos when she would recoil saying ‘Save Me’while playing or watching a movie. She was such a sweet one, but in spite of her fearful nature, she tried to plead and resisted.
In my opinion, if awake, Celeste would have been even more difficult to handle.
What about Cece’s last words or reaction? Chris said that from the moment she was born, he had a special bond with her.
He read her stories at night and they roared like a tiger. Bella preferred to be tucked in by her mom. Bella reminded Cindy of Chris as a child and he remarked on it to a reporter by describing her as a nurturer. Why did he not mention Celeste’s last words or being haunted every day as he is with Bella?
According to Chris, Bella said a few times that it smelled in the truck. That is it. How do you explain that?
I doubt there was a long conversation or a big showdown with Shan’ann.
Maybe she told him she would fight for full custody, would not give him a divorce or told him Fuck you Fuck you and Fuck you and he jumped her.
The fact that he brings back the straddling several times might be because it really happened. That way, his wife could not have moved or fought back. It is the first time listening to him, that I felt his primal side. He kept repeating that he sat on his pregnant wife as if it was normal. Or as if he had a need to revisit the image.
Asked if she saw him strangle her, he recoiled at what she saw in his face. I can only imagine.
But who knows? He could have easily jumped her from the back because of the smudges we see on the pillow cases and sheet. He probably would not want to admit that he went after his wife while she slept because it makes him the coward of the Century. She was also buried face down.
In his mind, saying that he strangled her after an argument would not only remove the premeditation aspect, but it would make it the result of a slow burn. On the other hand, what he confided about his daughters is horrendous and cruel but would be considered premeditated; once again, go figure.
The way he described her face lower than usual in the pillow could indicate that he simply killed her in her sleep and that image stuck in his mind. The content of his statements is comprised of a patchwork of images he probably cannot forget and is rearranging into a narrative.
That is why the Colorado team should not have paid him this impromptu visit and accepted the veracity of his statements so easily. And they should definitely have abstained from making it public.
It is quite haunting to imagine him drag his wife downstairs with the thumping sound of her feet hitting the stairs. It is a horror story; especially knowing that Bella was up. And it confirms my suspicions that it may not have been premeditated. Who would plan such a mess?
The basement was full of medicine, he could have simply given the girls more Benadryl than usual to make sure they would not wake up.
He was rational enough to throw the blankets in a bin, but he left the sheet in the field with incriminating evidence on the oil batteries. He left her phone, purse and everything else at home.
But he thought of removing her ring that we probably saw him retrieve in the car when he entered the garage. He either lied about it to the investigators or there is a slim chance he does not remember, which I doubt because after all, he was strapped for money and this rock was worth $12,000.
I believe that he unloaded the song battery from Metallica because of his state of mind, and that it was not for Nikki as he told the Colorado gang. But as they were often exchanging songs and talking about lyrics, there is a possibility that she did ask him about the strange lyrics; the timing would then indicate that they were connected and she could have had the urge to ask intuitively about it. No way would she have asked if involved. Only a text could confirm or deny this one.
Unless the documents were wrong about the time, it was downloaded at 10:10 AM on the 13th. I doubt that his focus was on explaining lyrics at that moment in time.
He does not seem to remember Celeste’s dress when he recalled unbuttoning it to the detectives.
His brain and state of mind were probably mush and containment even if he managed to look semi-normal.
God Is on His Side
It appears that Chris Watts can only serve one Master.
He turned his back on his parents and sister over the shenanigans of his wife Shan’ann. He turned on his own family for his new love Nikki. Only then, could he see all the dysfunctions of his married life. The same way he realized the method to the madness of his wife towards his family only when Thrive and a mistress allowed him to have more clarity; some kind of epiphany.
He appeared to live in one contained bubble at a time. Now that he is in prison, his Master is God. Not a bad choice, but certainly not the answer either.
He is now knee deep in religion and perceives looking at a woman with lustful intent a sin. He wishes he would have worked in the field and not at the office to avoid meeting Kessinger who has now become Jezebel. Gone is the awakening of being in a toxic relationship or coming into his own.
He now thinks that Shan’ann was praying when he strangled her. Thinking of Luke 20:34 ”Father, forgive them for the do not know what they are doing” was probably the last thing on her mind. If awake, she would have been scared and horrified.
”He is now dead to sin, alive to God. For sin shall no longer be his master, because he is not under the law, but under grace.”
Like many inmates before him, he memorized the bible and is a scripture dispenser. It gives him hope and I respect his desire to help others and find usefulness in his confinement, but I wish he could really look at his life and come to grips with reality and unleash his own personality.
His mistress is not the one who lied about getting a divorce, she did not put a leash around his neck. It was him who wanted out.
He seems unable to come to terms with the fact that he had his own feelings and desires.
Interestingly enough, when he talked to investigators, he stated about both Shan’ann and Nikki when it came to sex: She wanted what she wanted. As if he was there to answer their demands and had no involvement whatsoever. He seems to forget that he pursued both women, and in the case of Kessinger, we saw his cards and emails showing that he also wanted what he wanted.
He is the one who told Nikki after she found out about his wife pregnancy that it was not his child. When she told him in no uncertain terms that she did not believe him, he asked her if it would change things between them. He wrote to her that ‘he finally had the guts to approach her‘.
He saw a future with her and constantly professed his love and sent her flowers. Through religion, he is now conveniently blaming her and distancing himself from his own actions, and now relates to this Proverb:
With persuasive words she led him astray;
she seduced him with her smooth talk.
22 All at once he followed her
like an ox going to the slaughter,
like a deer stepping into a noose
23 till an arrow pierces his liver,
like a bird darting into a snare,
little knowing it will cost him his life.
24 Now then, my sons, listen to me;
pay attention to what I say.
25 Do not let your heart turn to her ways
or stray into her paths.
26 Many are the victims she has brought down;
her slain are a mighty throng.
27 Her house is a highway to the grave,
leading down to the chambers of death.
He is also identifying with the Book of Job 1:1 that is the story of a man confronted with the devil and going through many tragedies. Click to read it.
He cannot connect the dots and is now rewriting the narrative by injecting religion in it. I am surprised that he did not say that the devil made him do it. Sorry, it is Sandra who said that. Maybe it will come.
I wonder if Metallica will be banned from his thoughts also. Are they not Satanic?
Religion is another Master Chris. Find yourself first. Face the music and then decide on a set of belief.
The Colorado gang screwed him over and endangered his future incarceration by poisoning the well even more. I can only imagine how his family felt when they heard his interview without prior notice, and saw his photo posted all over social media. It is not like anyone gives a damn about the Watts`feelings anyway. They have unjustifiably been attacked from day one.
The media, crime revelers and the authorities condemn the guy for his atrocious actions at that moment in time, and rightly so, but their reprehensible current actions officially earned them a membership card in the same Undesirable Club.
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UPDATE: I will not purchase the book written by the Bible lady who befriended Watts to make a buck, but for those interested, this is a link to an article written about Letters from Christopher . Click to read.
I have been asked my opinion on the matter, and so far, I see an ‘author’ who has an exclusive with the Daily Mail, promotes a lot to boost the sales of her book, and gave interviews to Youtubers.
During one of the interviews of limited content because of her exclusive contract with the Daily Mail, we heard platitudes and comments about the size of Watts’ hands and how it is related to his manhood. And it took us down a couple of rabbit holes leading to possession and the devil. Another channel I will not visit again.
And if you look at the book cover with its red background and a darkened Chris Watts to make him look more sinister and evoke the devil, it is obvious that it is a simplistic Marketing ploy, not unlike the famous OJ magazine cover.
Really?
This person has no intention of pursuing a relationship with Watts and appears to have used his parents to get information while planning a type of project they could have never been on board with. Leaked online conversations with a very nervous and worried Jamie Watts have been posted and they appear to indicate that the family was fooled.
She passes judgment on Chris based on her limited experience on the subjects of incarceration, crime or psychology. She describes a serious man with no emotions and no sense of humor who cannot sustain her gaze (maybe Aspergers). I clearly remember him being emotional and at times, even funny when talking to the Colorado detectives during their visit in Wisconsin. But of course, many might choose to believe her version.
She does not seem to realize that her Bible entry into the life of a man in the throes of the worst human experience possible; being propelled in the crime stratosphere without really knowing why or how, would be perceived by many as a ruse or at least, self-serving. Having said that, she is entitled to write any book she wants, but we are entitled to find it misguided.
Turning to religion was probably Watt’s only solution and salvation, but it sure does not explain what happened. Letting him use God and the Devil to explain the narrative kind of sound ridiculous. This is what they did in the old days when someone suffered a break from reality, mental illness, a psychotic episode or hallucinations. They blamed the forces of evil.
Having homicidal (or suicidal) thoughts for weeks does not mean you are possessed or evil. The seemingly real cases of possession are very far and few. It might mean you are a sociopath planning the demise of your family, but it would also mean that you would lie till your dying breath, mount a defense and fight to keep your freedom. If the case, Watts would have certainly blamed his wife and gone through a trial and appeals if found guilty.
Even if sociopaths are not big planners and tend to be unafraid and impulsive, they never admit or accept responsibility. Watts will not stop confessing and every time, he adds a layer of horror that makes him sound more despicable. You almost feel like saying ‘we heard enough Chris, go back to your cage.’
The precepts that this lady supports and used to ‘interact’ with Watts are to say the least, devoid of any modern legal or psychological framework. This book can only propagates hatred towards him. It is not about closure for anyone; more like throwing gasoline on a fire.
Ephedra and other substances gave people hallucinations. The guy was ingesting dangerous substances, did not sleep, was in the middle of a financial crisis and marital storm, so what he describes as forces or darkness and visions could have been induced hallucinations and a deranged episode.
Because he is now out of that fog and at the bottom of society’s barrel, good ole follower Chris has no one to lead the way and does not seem to be getting psychological counseling or therapy. He probably thought that this older lady was a godsend who would help him deliver a message of hope and more or less follow him in his religious delirium; which she did.
The same way he thought that his wife was good with money until they ended up in the poor house.
She is simply stirring the brew and trying to pass as truth, scenarios that might be fact or fiction. I only read a letter and heard a limited portion of her interviews, and I am certainly not going to take the content as gospel and yell Bingo! The same way I did not take his Wisconsin version as gospel.
This is way more complicated than what she is peddling. Professionals should handle this matter.
If reading some of his letters do not convince you that Watts was in a lunatic state, I do not know what will. Resurrection of the girls, dunking them in the oil tanks so they don’t resurrect again, oxy being administered twice and then one time only. So far, no evidence of this in the discovery even though he mentions that they found some in her system.
But to be fair, in his second confession in Wisconsin, Chris, when asked if Bella was alive when put in the truck, answers ‘they woke back up’. When pressed to explain, an emotional Watts answers that he does not want to talk about it, ‘those are my kids, those are my babies‘.
The detectives let it fly, probably not grasping the extent of what he had just told them. I asked a pathologist if it was a possibility, and apparently, smothering someone is not that easy and it is possible for victims to wake back up.
Planning a murder for weeks with no emotions would mean putting a plan in place. Not the mess that this guy recalls. He calls it a ‘nightmare’ and says that he ‘was numb to the entire world’, ‘lodged in a deep pit he could not climb back out of’, knew that ‘it was the last time he would be tucking the babies in’, but he goes at it like an avalanche with no chance of ever escaping justice. His actions would have not made it possible for him to be with Nikki, which he claims was his goal. On the contrary, it would have rendered it impossible.
He told Cadle that he would take to his grave the secret of how he got the oxy in the first place. He then, turned around and taped a message directly from prison for another Youtuber, and explained that it came from the bin in the basement where Shan’ann practically kept a drug store.
There are no published studies looking at whether taking oxycodone increases the chance of miscarriage. This does not mean there is an increased chance or that there is no increased chance, it only means that this question has not been answered.
He mentions that Shanann was drowsy so he knew how to squeeze her jugular veins. When would she have ingested oxy when she came home early that morning? No evidence of that either. And she would not have realized that he left the marital bed to go kill the girls while she was still awake? Maybe or maybe NOT. She does not question the numerous contradictions.
He might not even know anymore what happened or is trying to spin it, but when you are incarcerated for life after committing 3 murders, and with hardly any human contact day and night, you might be ready for the taking when the old lady living in a shoe comes knocking at your cell door.
Who knows? He obviously does not really confront what ails him and his attempts at redemption and at reconstructing his new identity as ‘Christopher’ will surely be met with the same sarcasm and skepticism for obvious reasons. He is not going to earn brownie points with this collaboration, and I am sure she knew that.
The guy is so gullible and full of stories that I am considering writing to him to ask for a collaboration on a Chinese Book with recipes from his trip to Asia. I bet he will say yes. Wait till you taste his sweet and sour chicken balls.
This book is the natural result of a high profile case. People always come out of the woodwork to profit, be relevant and contribute to the Circus. And the crime revelers like a Murder of Crows, show up for the feast.
Defense attorney Scott Reisch has interviewed Cadle and the result is a bit more balanced. He asked some of the right questions: why didn’t he hire an attorney or remained silent? Why kill an entire family after dating someone a few weeks? He questioned the wiring of his brain, mentioned snapping and rage and questions the validity of many of his new claims.
Another book is coming out. Watch them appear one by one on Amazon. This one is called ‘My Daddy is a Hero‘ and it labels Watts a covert narcissist. Enough said. If you can read the description of overt and covert narcissist and equate it to Chris Watts, you need to rethink your career choices. Click to read what a covert narcissist really is.
At least, the cover of the book is not Satan, but its title exploits a video of Bella singing a song she learned at school, and taped by her mom that is sure to pull at anyone’s heartstrings. In spite of the tragic subject, I almost laughed when I read that this author thinks that the guy who folded and took a plea deal to spend the rest of his life in prison is still a dangerous individual. And she does not believe that he is remorseful and has found God.
At the risk of repeating myself, psychopathic killers go to trial, lie on the stand, go to their grave denying their crime, get cocky about it, do not confess to a bible lady and do not let anyone write about their bad deeds. On the contrary, they make up stories to make themselves sound and look innocent and torture their victims’ families by representing themselves at trial and cross examining the witnesses to relive their crime.
I can’t help suspecting that he became a family annihilator; who intended to kill himself as well but just couldn’t do it. The classic example is Susan Smith, of course, although John List is a more extreme example. And there is also Diane Downs.
If Watts really intended to kill his wife he could surely have come up with a better plan, and would not have confessed his crimes.
List had planned his crimes with great minutia. His confession letter probably would have never been written if not from the fact that he thought they would never find him for lack of tracking methods in the good old days. I could not help remembering the fact that he left classical music playing in the house when he left and would often isolate himself in his car to listen to the same music during his lunch breaks. The power of music and what it means for every individual Not unlike Watts and Metallica.
All very different and fascinating cases if you are into narrative criminology. Watts basically had no plan, and as his wife said, maybe no ‘game.’
Another great true crime blog. I’ve only read superficial coverage of this which certainly makes Watts out to be a monster (People Magazine). This in-depth report really amazed me, and at the same time, saddens me. A perfect storm of life gone wrong didn’t need to end in three murders. I do wonder if Watts was perhaps having psychosomatic reactions to those idiotic patches. Caffeine overdose? I love the way you find interesting true crime events and write such compelling reads. Your anecdotal style is so easy and has great balance and fairness. More, please!
It is always a treat to read your comments. Mainstream media seems to always come up with the same recipe. It sells. This tragedy did not need to happen. How we all wish that Watts could have found a way out without hurting his family and causing so much collateral damage. I also wonder if he reacted adversely to all the ingredients he was swallowing and putting on his skin. We know for a fact it affected his nervous system and his emotional state. It was indeed the perfect storm. There is not one person who knew him who did not say that he was not the same man. Caffeine is very different as a supplement. We will never really know, but it is reassuring to have readers who feel empathy and want to know the back story, instead of taking out the pitchforks ready to avenge. Thank you for the positive reinforcement!!
So now what? Because he accepted a plea deal he can not ever appeal it? Is that how it works?
I understand that he is guilty. He murdered his pregnant wife and 2 beautiful little girls. I even think I understand (if it is possible to understand any of this) why he took that incredibly sweet plea deal (searching for sarcasm font, can’t find it). It was to atone. In the only way he could and the last real choice he will ever make. He gave up his chance to explain what led him to his path. He gave up his chance to ask for mercy.
I wonder what his thought process was like all those months later. Detoxed from sitting in jail with no Thrive. Must have been eye opening to say the least.
You are right Lise, he had a lot of mitigating circumstances he could have used if he had chosen to mount a defense. He didn’t choose to. Maybe he thought he didn’t deserve anything less than the vitriol he received.
He was abusing that unregulated crap, he was doubling his patches and intake??? How the hell long had he been on it?? His whole world was out of control. The Thrive crap was the last straw, it was eating them mind, body and bankbook.
I agree with you that this was not a planned massacre. It was impulsive in the moment but also sounds like his fuse had finally burned to the end.
I don’t understand some of the details, how could her parents have lived with them for 15 months during the height of their last financial crisis that ended in bankruptcy (while they were there?!?) and later said they never saw any signs of trouble in this marriage? Huh?
She was taking this crap while pregnant?
Shan’Ann, Bella and CeCe were the victims and I am not forgetting that. They had their lives stolen from them. They didn’t deserve this. It was Chris and no one else that did this. No matter what he was ingesting and no matter what his life situation was, he did this. But life without parole? Why? Is he a serial killer? Isn’t it enough to lock him up until he is past the age of creating and killing another family? I don’t think anyone believes he would make a habit of this but seriously, isn’t life w/o parole supposed to be reserved for predators that would continue to prey on people their entire lives?
The CO judicial system did a piss poor job with this. They should have thoroughly investigated what led to this tragedy so that steps can be taken to protect others from the same fate. How many more cases of unpredictable behavior leading to injury or death will it take before all the culpable parties are held accountable???? [Was that too obtuse? I am talking about this pyramid scam company– Le-Vel]
Thanks for taking the time to tell us what really happened to this beautiful family Lise. We never would have understood there was more to it than the headlines.
He could appeal because of inadequate representation. Or state other factors. But if he did not defend himself during the storm, I doubt that he will anytime soon. Especially after what his parents said in court. Atonement for life baby.
Both families are very religious and there was a lot of Scripture quoting going on during their victim impact statements. A long time down the road, I could see the Rzucecks involved in restorative justice with Chris. But for now, her father is probably still checking his Thesaurus to find synonyms for the word monster and I can’t blame him. He is totally entitled to his grief and anger.
Frankie junior, after his initially angry (and justified) reaction, told cops during an interview that he felt bad for Chris who had never been in trouble with the law and looked so scared in court. In spite of their deep resentment towards him, Frank and Sandra could not find a bad word to say about the guy before that final horrific chapter.
The system did a poor job that’s for sure. From the very beginning, they perceived this case as a hot potato they wanted to get rid of asap. When victims are little girls and a pregnant woman, I get how they say, it’s a wrap, folks! Let’s ship the monster we created in Colorado to Wisconsin. I bet they would have ended up giving him life with parole if he had played hardball and decided to go to trial. Nobody wanted to hear what would have come out.
I think that it will take brave souls to hold companies accountable for all the adverse reactions people suffer after taking their non FDA approved products.
Restaurants get sued when customers get food poisoning. How is it possible to keep selling ingredients that boost your confidence and metabolism while making you lose weight and your entire family? Do you want to invest with me in the Four Leaf Clover Peel good for energy and luck that our Southern friend was pitching on her parody video?
Thanks for the usual food for thought.
Thanks for answering my question about an appeal. I hope someday he decides to appeal, there is unquestionably merit in the argument that he lacked adequate counsel. Of course, appealing any decision in the US court system is always a long shot to win. The verdict isn’t the issue, the sentence of LWOP is. This is a sentence that should always be reserved for only the incorrigible, truly predatory criminals that will never be safe to be in society. Chris has not demonstrated that le-Vel of risk.
I recently watched the Netflix documentary about Ted Bundy. One thing I found to be noteworthy was that the judge in Florida (I think he presided over the case involving the sorority murders) was able throughout the trial to treat Ted as a human being and even spoke humanely to him after the guilty verdict while lamenting Ted’s choice of path in life. I haven’t seen that in recent high profile cases. Instead you see a long line of people waiting their turn at the mike to issue scathing monologues about how soulless and evil the defendant is. Personally, I think there should be a set limit on the amount of times the word monster can be used in a given time frame by a single person, a thesaurus should be required reading.
I do understand that the family and friends of the victim who are speaking are crushed by the anger and grief they are forced to endure by the loss inflicted on them by the defendant. But the Judge and the prosecutor need to be of a higher standard. They should not fall into this trap of trying to compete with the masses to see who can voice the most hate. They should be more professional.
Yes, I would very much like in on the 4Leaf Clover Peel!!!! How could that possibly not be a winner??
Thank you, Lise, for researching this and sharing it with us. You are truly a compassionate and open-minded person. I also appreciate the way you are always willing to engage with readers in the comment section who may have different views than you, as long as they want to participate in a civilized discussion, even while the topic is undoubtedly a very uncivilized act.
You rock.
I agree about appealing to reduce the sentence. His guilt was never in question. The process happened too fast. The man was isolated and went along with this plea certainly not to spare his life. He probably saw the profile of the case becoming global and thought of the families involved. And his guilt feelings must have been crushing.
Funny that you mention the judge in the Bundy’s case because I was very impressed by his behavior. This is what a judge should be; above making demeaning and abject remarks. The social media reaction is to criticize him and say that it displays white privilege because Ted was bright and white. I have seen several judges acting the same way with black defendants covered with tattoos. They understood their role as being an encouraging and merciful one. It does not mean that these people did not get a harsh sentence from them. The drug courts give great results because the judges that preside are fair, firm and friendly and their aim is to help addicts remain out of jail.
I am totally on board with prosecutors also having a higher standard. I had mixed feelings about Rourke. When someone asked him at the press conference about a shaking remorseful Watts, he dismissed it. When asked about the letter he had written that his own mother mentioned to a reporter, he pretended to have never heard about it. It might not exist, but I am not taking his word on the matter.
We all need a little luck and energy. I see big things for our new partnership.
Thanks Lori! It is always a privilege to read your comments.
What a great, in depth article that tells it like it is! You can’t get that on many other sites, especially youtube and facebook. I feel so bad for all the innocent people that are being dragged through the mud in this case due to armchair detectives that are just making stuff up! Chris Watts was a battered husband, maybe not physically, but definitely mentally. I wish his dad would have told him not to talk to the detectives anymore when he spoke to Chris in the interrogation room. My heart cries for the whole family because a lot of people knew what was going on but felt powerless over Shanann, or just brushed it off as Chris doesn’t seem to mind, he just goes with the flow- when in reality he was suffering inside. I still do not see evidence of who killed the girls, but I do know one spouse was moving on and was making plans and happy for once and the other was losing their meal ticket and verbal punching bag. I look forward to reading more of your articles, thank you for a conplete break down of this tragedy, and for being unbiased. I think there are many of us who know that what happened is not the result of a man who was a monster, but it was the end of a presuure cooker lifestyle that came crashing down.
Thanks Iris. As an experiment when I was researching the case, I went on some Youtube and Facebook comment sections. I tried to leave a few comments here and there to gauge the reactions, and it was shocking. The mob mentality you find there is appalling. They are making up facts, accusing innocent people of being involved, and you are right, armchair detectives invent shadows and entities to get noticed and monetize their videos.
I feel the same way about his interrogation. How I wish his father would have said enough. Do not speak anymore and let’s get you an attorney. He should have refused the polygraph. Once you tell your story once, walk away. You should not even talk to the police unless it is to give them basic information. And talking to reporters was the kiss of death.
Because Chris did not express his frustrations, it does not mean that every insult was not chipping away at his self-esteem. I was willing to keep an open mind as to what happened in that house on August 13, but his plea means that we might never know who did what. I think that they took advantage of the fact that he was isolated since weeks and probably feeling so remorseful and disgusted with himself, and encouraged him to pull the plug on the entire thing. They should have negotiated life with parole or go to trial. I am not that sure that the DA thought his case was that strong. Glad to hear I am not the only one who does not perceive the man as a monster and could see mitigating circumstances in his case.
Wow, that was a fascinating read; it was completely engrossing and honest, thoughtful. For the most part, I think you did an excellent job of staying neutral and I appreciated that.
I haven’t read any comments yet, but I expect there will be a lot of angry ones; I hope they do not stop you from writing more and sharing your perspective because I think you did a very good job and I’d like to read more from you.
Your comment is much appreciated. I do not promote my blogs on social media, except on my TTWJ Facebook page. And I don’t monetize my site so the readers are subscribers and it usually takes a little while before my blogs catch fire and I get the real angry comments. But I end up getting them, most of the time, and I get them a lot for high profile cases. I do not mind comments that disagree with the content, but I will not post insults and hateful gibberish. The point of my writing is to hopefully make the readers think and debate in a sober manner. Not start a polemic with endless fighting like what is happening since the beginning of this case on different social media platforms. My site is not a Roman arena and that crowd knows to abstain.
I very rarely comment on articles, but since this one is so balanced compared to everything I’ve read and seen on the Watts’ case ,and as this seems like the right neighborhood (pitchfork and torch free),I’d like to make some observations.
We know that Chris wasn’t allowed to park his work truck in the driveway because Shanann didn’t want any oil dripping and staining the cement. But you know what’s even stranger? Chris didn’t even own his own car. What was absolutely central to Chris’s identity was that he was an auto mechanic. Not a backyard mechanic. He was a NASCAR trained mechanic. He could build engines. His father said that they had worked on cars together since Chris was a young boy. Chris’s parents were proud that he’d gone to NASCAR Tech. Have you seen pictures of Chris’s garage? Spotless and tool free. There is a large tool box, but other than that you’d never think that a mechanic lived there. No engine hoists, compressors, creepers, car parts, work benches, tools hanging off the walls…it screams NO MECHANIC IN RESIDENCE. The essential identity that Chris had forged since he was a young man was somehow eliminated/abandoned and I bet it was devastating to him. Also, note that one of Chris ‘s first dates with Nikki was to the Shelby American Collection in Boulder. I think Chris was desperate to reclaim who he was, to be who he was before everything was stripped away. Skipping ahead to the apocalyptical end: In a craven act of inhumanity, desperation, hatred and blame Chris turned his house into a ghost town, destroying everything.
Here’s a good read about Chris Watts and his Metallica tattoo:
https://crimerocket.com/2018/10/27/what-does-a-tattoo-and-a-song-reveal-about-the-real-chris-watts/
Chris looked so pathetic in his wedding pictures. The suit he was wearing was 2 sizes too big. Maybe nothing better epitomizes what Chris was getting into than a suit that didn’t fit.
Did I say BIG?
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/131220034259-big-suit-story-top.jpg
So true Tar. The bankruptcy filing of 2015 included his beloved 2006 Blue Mustang valued at $8,275. Chris’ ex girlfriend from North Carolina said that Shan’Ann never liked it. Their Ford Explorer was sacrificed to give way to a Lexus for the lady of the house. Chris’ car bonus was cashed in for expenses. There was no sign to be found of his passion for car racing and mechanic. His dream was to work in that field and her answer was to make him wear a beauty mask on her videos.
Their little girls were adorable, but I found it so unwise to decorate them with huge bows and frills galore while focusing so much on their physical ailments. They should have been out there playing and even going with dad to the races if that is what he felt like doing.
You clearly see the neighbors’ cars in their driveway, and Chris was relegated to the street to keep theirs immaculate. She had a fit when he drove the Lexus to the airport and left it there until their return from North Carolina. There was nothing left of the old Chris, and he was trying to regain his identity. Nichol was a blessing in his life. One who could share his interests and respect his likes and dislikes, and he was already buying car parts to repair her older model Toyota SUV. The old Chris was reborn.
Interesting link about Metallica.
He frankly looked pathetic at his wedding. Good analogy; he was never going to fit her naive but falsely ambitious world of magic thinking and would always look lost in that lifestyle. But to be fair, his love of the Steelers was part of the ceremony and present throughout his wife’s videos. She also gave him Metallica concert tickets. A small token or remnant of his old life. He paid a huge price to become Mr. Mom.
How I wish he would not have turned to bulldozing his entire life. I wish Shan’Ann would have learned the real meaning of Thriving. That’s all the poor guy wanted in the end.
Tar Heal,
What do you think happened the night he killed his kids? I don’t believe he planned their deaths. But, wth happened! He was obviously very unhappy for a long time, but so too are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, who stay in unhappy marriages before they finally decide they’ve had enough.
Why did Chris Watts kill his kids? Why didn’t he call his wife and tell her he was done and he was leaving her? I can’t wrap my head around the fact that he killed his little girls. He was, as far as we know, a really good dad who loved his kids right up to the point where he killed them. How does that happen?
I know you don’t know, but I’m interested to know what you think might have happened that night.
Your post about his car and his identity being stripped was very insightful.
Thank you!
Hey Lise,
On one point I must disagree. Nikki was no blessing in Chris’s life. I believe she was the catalyst for the complete destruction of the Watts’ family. She reminds me of Michelle Carter, the girl who convinced her boyfriend to kill himself. This is a description of what she did:
Michelle Carter knew that if anyone found her text messages to her boyfriend Conrad Roy III, she might go to jail.
“[If the police] read my messages with him I’m done. His family will hate me and I can go to jail,” Carter texted a friend after her 18-year-old boyfriend used a gas-powered water pump to commit suicide in the parking lot of a K-Mart.
Carter had asked Roy in a text message to delete her messages before he carried out the suicide last summer, but investigators found them anyway.
According to prosecutors, Carter pressured her boyfriend to go through with suicide for almost a week before he carried out the act. She counseled him to overcome his fears; researched methods of committing suicide painlessly; and lied to police, his family and her friends about his whereabouts during the act itself and after, prosecutors said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/31/its-now-or-never-texts-reveal-teens-efforts-to-pressure-boyfriend-into-suicide/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5ca72e22e04f
Someone commented on a youtube video and dubbed NK “The Helpful Ho.” Perfect, suits her to a tee.
We’ll simply have to agree to disagree on this one. Chris wrote a card to Nikki about the day he had the guts to approach her. And we know by now that she was not googling Shan’Ann in 2017. It was a typo. And even if she had, it means nothing to be curious about a guy’s wife.
In June, she wrote to him that she wanted to keep their friendship at work by respect to herself and his family. She believed in karma. He replied that he agreed. What came next is two people that fell for each other. He told her that his marriage was failing and he was divorcing. I don’t see why she would be responsible for anything else than having an affair hoping they would end up together. I am sure that she deeply regrets dating a married guy.
What I meant by Kessinger being a blessing is that he finally saw the life he wanted with someone who appeared to respect him and share his interests. Someone to be physically active with, who was not on the phone all the time and sensible with her money. Not saying at all that it ended up being a blessing.
The two people responsible for the explosion of the family are Chris and Shan’Ann. Many people stay in a mediocre relationship until they meet someone else.
I agree that she was one of the catalysts; if he had not approached her, he would have remained with his family in spite of being dissatisfied, but for how long? What was wrong in his relationship exploded when he saw a way out with Kessinger and his wife did not help matters with the nut drama with his family. I get the feeling that it would have happened down the road anyway. The guy was a ticking bomb. And yes, I think that all the supplements he was taking messed with his already strange mind. Kessinger said ”I legitimately think that his cheese was falling off his cracker long before I met him.”
I don’t believe for a minute that Kessinger thought that he was capable of hurting his family.
I know about the Michelle Carter’s case. Really different. She failed to render assistance to her friend and encouraged him to finally kill himself even if he was hesitating.
After he mentioned moving out, Kessinger encouraged him to move to an apartment close to his soon to be ex wife so that the kids would not suffer the long distance between their parents; which she went through as a child. They saw each other all the time and he was telling her that the house would go on the market very soon. She never invited him to move in with her. She wanted to see how things would go. She respected his time with his daughters.
People have affairs. Kessinger probably thought it was a done deal. I am certainly will not call her names for doing it. I will leave that to social media, but I would not hesitate to criticize her if she wrote a book, or decided to cash in on the tragedy.
Lise,
For your consideration, an interview with Shan’ann’s friend. She has a strong opinion about NK (at the end of the interview)
https://soundcloud.com/criticalkay/sesh-5-shananns-closest-friend-goes-on-the-record-about-chris-and-kessinger/sets
Thanks for sharing. I already listened to Lauren’s interview. It does not change my opinion on Kessinger. For Lauren to say that she got a deal and the cops were lenient borders on invention. They checked her whereabouts and she was not involved. This is what mattered to them. She was not physically involved in the plotting or execution of the crimes. They are not the cheating police and were satisfied with the evidence they had. The moral aspect of the case is not their concern. And of course, she would have testified if the case went to trial. I doubt that they had to do any cuddling for that. She called them the minute she realized something was fishy.
I found Lauren’s comments interesting about Shan’Ann’s former boss Hisham Bedwan. Chris’family and some of his friends suspected something dirty was going on with the Dirty South store situation. How do you go from babysitting his kids to bookkeeper and sales manager, and according to Lauren, part owner? Maybe because he recognized her skills, but she was seen driving his luxury car around town and it would be normal to kind of question their relationship. She told Lauren she didn’t like her boss but they remained friendly. The same way she was in good terms with her former husband but talked about an abusive relationship on video. Dirty South was sued and her name was part of it. I did not go there because it is only speculation, and it is not related to her cruel murder, but if people want to throw stones at Kessinger for dating a guy claiming to be divorcing, they might want to examine the double standards that abound in this case.
Not seeing Nichol’s text messages is what is bothering most. It would have been the best outcome for the cops but certainly not for her. I can only imagine what the media would have done with her sexual talk and photos; considering what they are doing now with the little they have got. I don’t know many lovers who would share their intimate photos and talks with the world. She saw the writing on the wall. Who knows what anyone would have done in her situation.
It is probably normal for Shan’Ann’s friends to want to blame the other woman. Her parents are also furious that she was not portrayed as a villain on 20/20. C’est la vie.
Great article, fair and balanced; I agree 100 percent. Unfortunately, in the US once you sign a plea agreement it almost always includes a no appeal clause as part of the “deal” which leaves no room to get back into a courtroom.
Thank You
Thanks for your comment. We will see on the 7th what Chris admitted doing and if it affirms or contradicts what we perceived.
Interesting article with lots of details, thank you. However, there is no excuse or amount of mitigating factors that excuses Chris Watt’s behavior, especially the killing of his little girls. I am glad he took the plea and spared the families the turmoil of a trial.
In the end, he proved his wife right – he did not have the balls to man up. Instead, he took the cowardly act of murdering his wife and daughters, destroying people’s lives in the process, because he didn’t want to deal with meanie Shan’an and instead go shack up with his fantasy girl. Pathetic.
As you know, mitigating factors are in no way to excuse the crimes committed by Chris Watts. In any legal case, they represent circumstances, and any information or evidence presented to the court regarding the defendant or the circumstances of the crime that might result in reduced charges or a lesser sentence. It is all about sentencing and not at all to diminish the nature of the crime.
It is a double edged sword. Being belittled and called names constantly might make you believe you are less or keep you from growing. It was not as simplistic as meanie Shan’ann or a fantasy girl. I think that he obviously was not in his right mind.
Anyway, my post stands but I will write an update about his recent encounter with the authorities. A lot to dissect there. And yes, it is a sordid and tragic tale that should have never happened to this family.
This story is one for the training textbooks. Not for the investigators as they represented, but for defense attorneys to caution their clients about. Do not talk to prosecutors or investigators without your attorney present even after conviction.
I agree that this “confession” is highly questionable. Chirs seemed to be doing his best to be honest. He did not seem to be able to remember all the events in a linear and clear fashion. Perfectly understandable. Trauma, lack of sleep, stress and taking massive amounts of stimulants for months prior would lead to this outcome.
I listened to the audio of the interview conducted on 2/18/19 as well as read the transcript. The audio is more revealing and I’m glad I listened to it after having read the text. The nuances and the inflexions in his voice reveal the struggle he is having in answering the questions to the best of his ability, with the clear goal of pleasing the investigators. Most of the time he is speaking in a monotone, his affect appears flat. When he answers questions about his current life in the prison, he is noticeably more animated. It is like his brain is out from the fog.
He speaks as if he is reciting the narrative he has written in his mind. I don’t doubt that most of it is true, but the devil is in the details, as they say. There are a lot of details that are off. You certainly identified them.
Interesting that the investigators didn’t talk to the Watts’ family to better understand the family dynamics before this crime. Is it because they didn’t want to have to later share this information with any defense attorneys? Or is it because they weren’t interested in understanding the truth, only building a case?
Why wasn’t the Thrive he was taking discussed during this interview? I think that would be something they would be interested in learning about. How he felt then, with his heart racing, and later- did the withdrawal hurt? Confuse? How was his sleep? Does he miss it? Does he think it contributed to his rage toward Shan’ann? So many questions. None asked.
The part that makes my skin crawl is hearing them assure him they aren’t out to cause him any harm, they only want to learn how they could better do their jobs. All info gathered will be for internal law enforcement purposes. Don’t worry, we only want your photo for our records, it won’t end up on social media. Who profited from the selling of all this murderabilia? What will they sell next, the shirt he was wearing during the polygraph?
They mentioned that there is a current case in Colorado of a man who killed his girlfriend. Without mentioning the name of the suspect it was obvious who they were referring to. Yet this suspect has not been found guilty in a court of law so where is the presumption of innocence? These are trained professionals?
I watched the Dr Phil shows. Nothing to see there. Just people profiting off the misfortune of others.
There is so much we could learn from this case of domestic explosion. We are choosing not to learn anything. Your blog is the exception.
”Who profited from the selling of all this murderabilia? What will they sell next, the shirt he was wearing during the polygraph?” That made me laugh out loud. As tragic as this case is, this is directly from Comedy Central. They take his photo even if he told them no and blatantly publish it all over social media. Who orchestrated that? The minute the Rcuzeks found out, Dr. Phil announced his exclusive based on hearsay before the official transcripts came out. ”Did Bella see her mother being strangled?” It was sickening.
Did they steal some of his hair and shoes? Will they have another special to reveal the paternity of Nico? Chris was easy to fool and still is. Even if they told him that he did not have to talk to them, he believed that it would remain private. The same way he believed his wife when she told him that she had mailed the administration fees at the wrong address. What a strange bird.
We honestly could have conducted this interrogation better than these guys. Tammy interrupted him when he talked about Thrive. No interest there. They should have asked so much more on so many subjects. And they were not very professional in their demeanor. I know the Reid technique and I have listened to some interrogations, but this was beyond the pale. They sounded like a bunch of friends at Oktoberfest. I am the same Chris! Oh what a funny joke Chris! Give me a break. Tammy was almost giddy.
They did not name Frazee but you are right, they said that he was guilty.
The team was on a fishing expedition to redeem Shanann’s reputation and to get the confession that they were too rushed to demand for fear of going to trial. I get that her family does not want people to think that she was guilty of killing her girls. Or that Nico was not Chris’ son, but it was an ambush. How can they criticize defendants when the legal minds behave this way?
This is still the dark age in matters of justice. We all know that Chris is guilty. He has admitted it and went as far as revealing incredibly painful details. As you said, they are probably jumbled and all over the place, but he confessed nevertheless. Instead of rewarding him for this rare display of contrition, he is being thrown to the wolves. This was an acute domestic case and a man who was not functioning on a normal le-vel. There is a lot to be learned from it. Restorative justice is the perfect medium to deal with emotions and facts. It should be measured and not the hatefest we have witnessed so far.
You’re right that they rushed this case through the court too fast to get the full, detailed confession they needed to make the sentence airtight down the road in an appeals court. But the interview questions didn’t reflect any real concern about Shan’ann’s reputation or Nico’s paternity. Nope, that wasn’t the goal of this little charade. Telling Chris that the Rzucek family still loves him was a blatant lie. Saying they wanted to learn more about his case for training purposes was mostly a lie as well. It may have been a tiny bit true just so they could pull money from some training funds to help finance the expedition to the cold white wilds of WI, but it wasn’t the real mission.
I wonder if there is a way to see how we taxpayers paid for this little working vacation. This little trip that was all in honor of Chris and how they didn’t want him to have any anxiety (or counsel) so they didn’t give him any warning ahead of time.
I don’t think Chris ever seriously questioned Nico’s paternity. He didn’t want to be the father of another child with Shan’ann but he knew he was.
It seemed to me that the bulk of the interview was them trying to rule out any mitigating factors. They avoided the Thrive questions because obviously. But I found it interesting they waited 6 months, almost to the day, from the arrest to do this post-conviction palaver. To me that says they wanted him clean and detoxed with no questions about his lucidity. It also seems convenient he was interviewed while in an assessment center. 3 agents from separate agencies lends a lot of authority to future courtroom drama if they ever need to call witnesses. No one thought it was a bit of overkill to have CBI, FBI and the Frederick PD all represented? Or will this just give more gravitas to the eventual book deal and/or more crappy tabloid shows they sell the rights to next?
You absolutely nailed it Lise when you pointed out at that all their attempts to get him to negate any mitigating factors only highlighted them all!!! I was surprised they left so many in the final copy of the tape without editing each answer after the initial, “no, I didn’t feel demeaned” or “no, I didn’t mind the tension with the in-laws”.
I was not surprised to hear Chris had sought comfort from reading the bible. During the victim impact statements, it sounded as though both the Watts and Rzucek families have some church experience. What did surprise me was how much Chris seemed impacted by his new interest in God. Why in the world would he now believe Shan’ann was praying/reciting scripture while she passively allowed Chris to kill her???
This is one of the parts of his confession that seems off. Like from a dream. She didn’t fight him? Everything we have learned or seen of Shan’ann, everyone who has known her personally and spoken about her says the same thing: she was a tough, capable, smart woman. She was a fighter. Are we to believe she willingly allowed herself to be killed while her beautiful daughters were down the hall? While the baby in her womb was living?
Nope. She didn’t lay there silently praying or reciting scripture.
Chris seems to have immersed himself in religion as a way to atone, or to seek some kind of hope of an afterlife where the family he destroyed is still somehow, miraculously whole.
Or maybe he just feels like only the god of the christian bible doesn’t hate him.
The isolation he has endured combined with the self-loathing he must feel can only be imagined by most of us. I hope that his new foray into bible study gives him the comfort he is seeking. I hope that as fellow humans we get him the mental health help he so desperately needs to come to terms with what he has done. He needs a good lawyer and a psychiatrist.
And he needs to stay away from his “friends” at the CBI, FBI and Frederick PD. As they say, with friends like those, who needs enemies?
Their mission was definitely to eliminate any mitigation in the long run. Watts had given them a big nothing in exchange for a plea because he had received nothing. Had they said that he would get life with parole, he would have given some kind of confession. They probably saw the clock ticking and the possibility of Watts contesting his deal. It probably became a hat trick. They were able to get way more out of the visit. Even if they were kind of throwing Shan’ann under the bus to get Chris talking, the interview definitely cleared her name. I can understand why her parents wanted it known that their daughter did not have any involvement in the murder of her own daughters. That’s why they were given the go to appear on the most sensationalized show to clear her name. Social media has been pretty hard on Shan’ann. Accusing her of murder, saying that Chris was not Nico’s father, that she tried to abort with pills, etc. The Rzuceks even had an independent test to prove the baby was alive and definitely a Watts. Must have been rough for them.
As much as I thought that it was an emotionally abusive relationship, I never suspected her of harming the girls or to have had affairs. It seems that Chris was going through the motions and was going to accept the new baby at first, but the financial perils and his encounter with Kessinger shut that down. Instead of going with the flow, he woke up.
God is basically an inmate best friend. It restores hope and makes one feel loved and forgiven by a higher power when the rest of the world is spitting on you. And right again, the victims impact statement were coming directly from the bible belt. But I think that the way he is using religion right now is unsound. Shan’ann was not praying and if she did not resist it is because she was asleep or he pinned her down. No way would she have surrendered without a fight.
Most of his confession sounds off. How on earth can he admit to extreme cruelty towards Bella but pretend that his wife did not fight him? I still tend to believe that the kids were killed at home but the video is pretty convincing. Maybe he wants to eliminate the premeditation aspect of the event. But he could have kept the 3 killings in the house and nobody would have doubted him. He took them all by surprise. So he wanted to be honest to a certain extent.
He is a difficult guy to decipher and his amigos did a lousy job of it. They did not dig very deep. They should have insisted and asked more questions. They should have challenged him. Basically, their interview was a bust. It would not cut the mustard in a court of law.
Many don’t care to know that the three amigos lied through their teeth to get the confession because when it comes to Watts, they want to circumvent the law. They want him dead on the floor with a shank on his back. But really, they did such a lousy job of it that even as enemies, they did not really accomplish much. The entire thing is a fiasco and leaves a lot of doubts in our minds.
The guy is going to need religion to survive this last wave. Unless he welcomes them with open arms same time next year. He really needs psychiatric help and a serious attorney.
I appreciate this in that while it explores the possible shades of grey in the relationship, it is not outright victim blaming either. And I would agree that Chris is likely simply a (very troubled) human and not a “monster” – but that being said, the narrative of him as the meek, abused man without his own identity feels too simple and black and white to me too.
There are also a few claims here that I’m not sure have any more support to back them than the speculation being criticized. For instance – do we know that Chris had a high IQ? Being described as the “rain man” among a group of people – many of whom likely don’t have a formal education, probably especially in psychological matters – is not necessarily telling. In fact, it could be indication that there was in fact always something… off. To assume that this was merely introversion, or especially high intelligence, is just that, an assumption.
Many assertive social people identify as introverts. I mean, Amy Schumer identifies as an introvert. She devotes an entire chapter in one of her (only? I’m not sure) books to this. And being quiet does not mean that someone’s necessarily meek. There’s a difference between being afraid and unable to confront someone or something, and simply not wanting to do or deal with it (which is even arguably it’s own disregard – “not worth it”). Can we be sure we know which category Chris falls into? He apparently prefers to see himself as “laid back” – and he could have been making conscious choices in valuing this about himself. Not wanting to stir the pot or rock the boat and all because he didn’t feel like it and enjoyed the image.
I’ve found some seemingly relevant and in depth arguments as to how Chris could fit the categorization of a covert (generally introverted) narcissist. The best of which (imo) speculated that it was overwhelming shame that motivated his behavior. He’d been the “good boy” all his life, the savior (him and Shanann got together when she was sick), the man – should you shift your perspective – who was Strong enough to live with what may have been nit-picking behavior, seemingly lovingly and unphased.
He was about to be unmasked of this constructed identity, in that he was also someone capable of cheating on his pregnant wife, and coldly and decisively discarding her and seeking divorce – and possibly in a very public way. (Shanann did have her entourage and network she wasn’t afraid to share with after all).
A piece of information I noticed was missing here was the picture he sent her of the doll wrapped in the Twister mat. Minor, and yet possibly significant. I agree with the opinions of many that it was in fact him who set up the doll, just days before her murder. Was it a warning of what had already been premeditated though? I’m not sure. Though I do think that on some level it was sending the cryptic message that he wanted to or was capable of doing this. He said that he felt that his mind had already been made up when he killed her. Whether that had simply become fully conscious to him in that moment or not I’m not sure.
But passive aggression is still aggression. This is at least one clue that he was maybe capable of being this way, and that it could have been indicative of his character. He may have learned it from his home environment if there’s truth to the accusations about them trying to get under Shanann’s skin. In regards to the comments on Jamie – I’m not sure why being a respiratory therapist would cast doubt on “wicked” behavior. I will qualify this in that I’ve known plenty of lovely people in this field too – but there’s even been a joke in certain circles about how petty, immature and vindictive some health care workers can be. I know people who got into nursing and the like with the motivation of trying to combat it.
Passive aggression is typically harder to call out, and it can lead to gaslighting, which is definitely also abusive. I found it telling that she felt the need to text him with “I’m not crazy.”
I guess I think it’s important not to underestimate his part in what led up to this (or to overestimate him either – even if he is an intelligent guy, that doesn’t mean that he’s a criminal mastermind, or lacking in arrogance, which could contextualize some of what doesn’t seem to make sense). Especially if this could have partially led to the rage.
Thanks for the interesting comment. I don’t pretend to be an expert on all things Chris Watts, but I will answer based on the elements that made me come to some of my conclusions; as shaky as some can be because of the obvious lack of background information.
IQ – Chris said that he was tested during his assessment at the Dodge Correctional Institution and his IQ was between 135 and 140. I don’t think that he would have lied to the investigators about information contained in his file.
Chris’s high school teacher Joe Duty revealed that it was beyond belief that Chris could have been involved in such a heinous crime. Duty is a retired Pine Forest High School teacher who taught Chris. “In fact, he was one of the best students I ever had. Oh, my God. This is a shock.”
Duty revealed that Chris was a bright student and, in 2003, he had won third place in an N.C. Automobile Dealers Association competition held in Winston-Salem.
Chris had been awarded a certificate along with a $1,000 scholarship to Universal Technical Institute and NASCAR Technical Institute in Mooresville along with the said senior.
“This was one of the smartest students I ever had. The guy had a photographic memory,” Duty said. “His biggest passion outside of automotive was Nascar. He knew chapter and verse, everything you could ask about Nascar. Anything. In fact, I told him before he graduated, I said, ‘Chris, if I ever had a student who was going to be tremendously successful, it’s you.’
According to a former girlfriend and his own family, he worked hard and did extremely well at Nascar Tech.
So that would explain why some of his colleagues called him Rain Man and Silver Fox. Silver Fox because of his hair but Rain Man was because Chris knew every detail of a site after going there only once, and they often deferred to him for information because he was so resourceful.
They sounded like bright guys to me during the police interviews.
Shanann mentioned how book smart her husband was. He retained everything right away. It obviously had nothing to do with his emotional intelligence. He obviously was lacking in that department.
Introvert: Very true about comedians often being introverts. Chris mentioned how funny he was with a cousin when he could not open up with his wife because he was too nervous. He was described as an introvert by long term friends, his family, his wife and colleagues. His mistress said he was an introvert but not in the extreme. It seems to be the consensus out there. His boss at the Ford dealership in Colorado mentioned how bossy Shanann was with him. She had his paycheck deposited in her bank account. She dominated him. Introverts usually have a few long-term friendships like Chris did, contrary to extroverts like Shanann who collect acquaintances. I agree that being an introvert does not necessarily mean that you are meek or weak.
Chris was weak in his relationship with his wife, but probably not at work. He hated the Thrive videos but could not say no because she would have been mad. He says that he was always nervous around her. Walked on eggshells. His parents noticed that he could not face her. His wife belittled him on video and told him he had no balls. Yes, in some instances, he simply rolled with the punches and did not mind getting pie in the face or being dismissed, but he definitely told Kessinger that his daughters were starting to repeat the insults his wife was throwing at him. He tried telling them that it was not nice but did not confront her.
His ego might not have depended on his public image, but he definitely could not face her about her irresponsibility with their finances. He told Kessinger that she would dismiss him. No wonder he liked the mistress, she listened to him and treated him like an equal.
Covert narcissism: Psychology today article about the subject. Calling someone a covert narcissist doesn’t— or at least shouldn’t — imply at they’re any sneakier or more manipulative than the average narcissist. It also doesn’t have anything to do with hiding abusive behaviors — another widespread myth. There’s no evidence of any such pattern in clinical research (reports from mental health professionals) or social psychological research (the study of traits and personalities).
The term “covert narcissism” (aka hypersensitive or vulnerable) was coined to capture the pattern in narcissists who aren’t loud, vain, chest-thumping braggarts, but are still — as their partners discover soon enough — just as arrogant and argumentative as people with the prouder, more outgoing brand of extroverted (aka overt or grandiose).
I do not think that it describes Chris at all.
As far as coldly and decisively discarding her and seeking divorce, I kind of agree that he discarded his wife but not decisively. When you read his texts when she is in NC, he calls her boo, tells her he loves her to the moon and back and keeps saying he will fix it. Says he does not know where his head is. I think that the problem is how indecisive and weak he was. He is a case of weak people revenge. they are the most dangerous.
Even with the big nut argument with his family, he tried to tell her that it had put a dagger between him and his dad, but she was having none of it. He folded right away and became apologetic. How many times did she tell him that he had no balls? Countless. She forbade him to bring the girls to visit his own bloody family. How emasculating is that? And he kept saying yes dear! She said that he did everything she asked. He was weak.
His wife said she was not crazy because his family did not want anything to do with her crazy behavior. She yelled in Cindy’s face because she had left her at home with her own girls for 4 hours. That was after Cindy had asked her if she wanted a ride before she had to go for appointments or after. And she did not even give Cece the ice cream. The other grandchild took it in the fridge.
All of a sudden Sandra says both girls were served ice cream with nut chips on them? There is craziness going on. Maybe from both sides, but she had no right to order her husband not to bring his own daughters to his parents’ home or to banish them from their life. The same thing happened at their wedding where Jamie was expelled from the wedding for not being available enough.
The Watts women wickedness: I did not say that Jamie was not wicked because she was a respiratory therapist. I meant that as a respiratory therapist, she was totally aware of the gravity of nut allergies and how it would affect your breathing. And fun fact: she was not there when it happened. She arrived to pick up her two children. My point was that Jamie and her parents are well liked and respected by many and do not really fit the profile that the media has created for them.
Jamie Watts denies not sending the invites. And they say that they had no clue that Shanann had gone gluten free when she moved to Colorado. They came back to NC to get married.
On this subject, I think that it is very telling that the authorities never interviewed either women. I don’t think that Jamie hated her sister in law. And it would be interesting to know if maybe not many people showed up at the engagement party because there were two parties, and it is easier to say that they did not get the invites. And you usually RSVP so I have questions on the matter.
Interestingly, Chris told investigators that when Cece had an allergy, her throat did not restrict. She had a rash. They ate at Bojangles with Cece at the table and there are tree nuts in some of the food. Chris took her to the birthday party where other kids ate a cake Cece did not eat. What is the difference?
I reserve judgment on the Watts because they were never given a chance to talk except for Ronnie. According to him, Shanann said his brother and mom were bipolar. So, go figure. Who is truthful?
The Doll: The reason I did not mention it in my blog is that I have no definite answer on this one. Sandra dismissed it as a joke. Shan’ann laughed about it on FB and talked about how kids do that type of things. A friend of Chris said that SW used his phone to take the photo and posted it because he was not home when that happened. And we know that Chris said she used his phone and posted all the time for him. Chris said his wife thought it was funny. With hindsight, Ronnie thought it was creepy. It was a tarp from one of their games, and we have no way of knowing if the girls did it or not. Shanann sure seemed to think so. I have a hard time believing that Chris would be sending warnings about death. I wish the question would have been asked directly. So, I take a pass on that one.
Underestimating his part: I do not think that he is a victim in the matter or did not play a part. The question is to what extent and with premeditation or because of a perfect storm and all the other obstacles he was facing at the time? I still think that what people underestimate is the intake of Burn Duo and all the shit from Thrive. His wife and mistress noticed how hyper he was. He could not sleep. He was not himself. Everyone who knew him said it came from left field.
If he was a narcissist, he would have walked out on his family. Started a life with his mistress and would have seen his daughters even if his ex tried to block him. Or he would have eliminated them with a plan.
If he wanted to get rid of them with great malice and furious planning, like sending dead dolls messages, why was it so sloppy and a direct pass to LWOP or death row? There was no planning in the execution.
What everyone underestimated is probably his mental state caused or not by external factors.
Malignant narcissists and psychopaths never admit guilt. They die fighting for their freedom. They never give in. Look at other cases of murderers who planned their crimes in order not to get caught and when caught, milked the system, fired their attorneys, represented themselves. Clammed up. Invoked their rights. Appealed. Psychology Today is not my bible, far from it, but this link clearly illustrates that Watts did not fit the profile.
He had the perfect defense: He could have blamed his wife. He could have claimed emotional abuse because some of his friends and his family would have testified on his behalf. He could have explored the Thrive effect. He did not have to confess to any gruesome scenario. He could have invoked a moment of insanity. He did none of that. He took it on the chin and spared a lot of people some grief.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/spycatcher/201712/narcissist-or-psychopath-how-can-you-tell
He is a strange bird, and I wish we would have more background information; I am not even sure that it would give us all the answers. Even the Colorado investigators who were using the Reid technique that calls for fake friendliness, seemed baffled by this case also, and were probably somewhat truthful when they told him he did not fit the mold. Most people who knew him are probably still scratching their head in disbelief. It all happened in a few weeks. Like an atomic explosion. Nothing before and after seems to point in any useful direction.
Huh, I didn’t know that he’d said that about his IQ, thank you. That could possibly lead to arrogance though. Assuming that he’s smarter than most people, and overestimating what he can get away with. A lot of guys have been brought down this way. Like when Bundy insisted on being his own lawyer and the courtroom just let him hang himself. Apparently Sandi advised Chris against giving a statement to reporters before she suspected him of his guilt. She told him to be careful since he was the last one to see Shanann. Obviously he ignored her, and he didn’t fool anyone, though he was probably confident that he could (or why do it, but idk, I’m not in his head).
And yea, I’m not saying that he isn’t an introvert. Just that I’ve seen this used a lot in conflation with other traits that wouldn’t necessarily be synonymous. And a quiet nature could have concealed a lot of aggression and narcissistic qualities. That all may have been there long before he did what he did.
I meant the covert narcissism and passive aggression bits to be two separate thoughts, though it could look like I’m leading one into the other. But the arrogance might definitely be present, especially given that we have that initial interview before he was a suspect.
I guess I meant decisive in that he’d made his decision regardless of how he was approaching this with Shanann. He was being confronted with finally having to tell her – there really isn’t anything that you can do or that I’m willing to do to fix this. I’m done. And those did seem to be his thoughts and feelings. She’d been discarded already in his mind, before he quite literally discarded her like trash.
And ah, I definitely missed the connection with the respiratory therapist point. Who really knows what happened with that family fight though. There are varying accounts from all camps. I’m sure it wasn’t about nuts ultimately anyway, and that they were just a catalyst for all the drama that had been building – which makes fault even more difficult to determine. If there wasn’t passive aggression present in that moment too, the conviction that there was could point to a pattern of behavior regardless. I suppose it could also be projection, but Shanann didn’t strike me as a passive aggressive person. She seemed pretty confrontational. She didn’t really strike me as an overly suspicious person either, given her wide social network and faith in a profession that’s often questioned. I don’t necessarily believe the denials of the Watts family. And of course they’re not a direct extension of Chris, but he’s proven to be a liar, so I can’t help but at least wonder how far the apple falls from the tree. I noticed that Cindy covered her mouth a lot in an interview as well, which is body language often associated with lying.
With the picture I’m pretty sure she posted as herself, but after he’d sent it to her. I don’t have the exact dates though, so I can’t state that as fact. If he were removed from it all entirely, it’s an awfully timely and bizarre coincidence. Still though, the universe works in strange ways. Considering that he’s capable of murder(s), I don’t discount that he could be capable of murder threats. Especially veiled in such a cryptic manner that they could be seen as a joke. She seemed a little unsure of it despite the laughing emoji’s. “I don’t know what to think about this” – a narcissist would enjoy putting someone off balance like that.
I think there could have been planning in the execution. He drove them to a work site after texting a coworker and volunteering to go there the night prior to the murders. This wouldn’t necessarily have been incriminating on the GPS of his work truck, at about 5:30 a.m. Shanann’s friend threw a wrench in what could have been further plans from there in alerting the cops so early. And someone overlooking details isn’t evidence that there wasn’t a plan. Even if he is an intelligent guy, again, that doesn’t mean that he’s going to be a criminal mastermind, especially as someone who’s been crime free most of his life. I’d imagine that no matter how well you plan, too, actually going through with something like this would lead to unforeseeable emotions and possibly subsequent oversight in that state.
Still though, he’s remarkably calm. I know someone who likely “snapped” – he tries to lie at first in a 911 call, but his voice is shaking, he’s talking very quickly, and he convincingly says that he feels like he’s going to throw up. Apparently in the interrogation room he was in and out of alternatively aware behavior and confusion, displaying symptoms of shock and possibly psychosis. Chris already has his checklist lined up immediately afterwards. Un-enroll the girls from daycare, call the realtor – there’s footage of him buying a breakfast sandwich at a gas station completely casually (which is chilling, I’m sure the cashier thought everything was business as usual).
We might just have different opinions about how a narcissist would approach this situation. I see a narcissist trying to protect their image at all costs (in his case, that of the “nice” guy), even if it means acting in spite of that image, but then believing that they’d get away with it. A widely publicized affair with a pregnant wife on social media (cus Shanann was never afraid to call him out) would have looked terrible on him after the picture they painted, whether they ultimately divorced or not.
Not admitting guilt isn’t necessarily the same as fighting for freedom. He’s admitted that he’s guilty in that he committed the crime, but he’s still claiming that he wasn’t fully in control of himself. That he was prey to a larger force. If the image that he’s already gone to great lengths to try to protect has been blown to bits with getting caught, maybe this is his last attempt to be the seen as the “good” guy again. He owned up, after all. And maybe in his naivety he sincerely believed he’d catch a break – like, well the usual rules don’t apply to guys like me, right? He’d been perceived as so normal, he’s a first time offender, he said he was sorry. He still hasn’t shown remorse that I’m aware of that indicates empathy though. It’s all about what he could be doing with his family right now if he hadn’t done what he’d done, when asked about Shanann he jumps to that maybe she was forgiving him in her final moments. It all comes back to him.
And yea, it is a baffling case. I don’t deny that emotional abuse or altered brain chemistry could have been factors, but I can’t personally see him being the genuinely meek guy so otherwise incapable of something cruel like this. I’m not sure if it was premeditated or not, and if it were, just how much time and planning went into it. As for him fitting a mold though – I can’t remember where I read this, but I thought I saw that a forensic psychologist had indeed diagnosed him as a narcissist, and so that’s why they were approaching him in the manner they did. They knew that if they could feed his ego with how special and unique he was, he’d be more likely to open up and eat out of their hand. It was more nuanced than just trying to fake friendliness. But I agree that there could have been some truth to him not fitting the mold too.
The IQ thing was basically asked of him by the detectives. They asked him if he was tested and he never mentioned the results, but they asked him specifically. He sure did not sound like he was bragging.
You are right about the media interviews he gave. Sandra and Cindy told him not to do it. He called the cops to ask for their advice on the matter and even asked Kessinger what he should do. Another sign of his indecisiveness. Finally, it is Nichol Atkinson who made an appointment with the media and told Chris at what time they would come to his door, and that they would keep coming back if he did not talk to them. She was a woman on a mission and made sure he could not wiggle out of it.
Personally, I thought he looked so stressed and unwell during his rambling interviews that it made it clear that he was lying. It made no sense. Not the work of a crafty criminal, that’s for sure. Even his mistress said that his eyes were not normal, and he did not look like the guy she knew. Shan’ann’s family said the same thing. Everybody knew.
It is difficult to know what his inner thoughts were or if he harbored any deep seethed resentment. As he said, it was a long fuse. He was always described as kind and patient by everyone. His wife raved about his kindness and how he nurtured the girls. His mom said he was like Bella as a child. Chris seemed to have been the only one in the family that gave the dog any kind of attention.
I perceive him more as an empty vessel than a guy who was passive aggressive. As I mentioned in my blog, I do not want to even try to diagnose the guy or go along with media ‘specialists’ who talk about him without any real background. It is the work of professionals who can have access to his files and who would interview him and his family and friends. And someone who tested him extensively. And even then, we know that psychiatrists often tend to disagree with one another. The one I usually consult laughs about this known fact.
I refuse to watch Dr. Phil or HLN or listen to these pseudo professionals sensationalizing the case for gain.
People can have their opinion, but it is not quite fair without a compilation of his actions throughout his life, starting at a young age.
I agree that the nut case was not about tree nuts because nothing happened there, and Cindy had never fed it to Cece. Plus, the child was fed lemon Pro bars with tree nuts in it in a video. It seems that Cindy and Shanann had a power struggle from the very beginning. Chris abandoned his family in favor of his wife. His mom did not like the way she treated him, and Jamie tried to get along, but came to the same conclusion. But it was not always discordant. They came to Colorado. They babysat. They used Thrive, or at least pretended to. Mimi was at the hospital when babies were born.
Let’s not forget that Shan’ann did not get along with her mother either. She would go to Cindy to complain about her mom and brother and then, she would turn around and do the same but with her mother. She was a troubled woman. She did alienate Chris from his family, but he allowed it. He could never go against her. But he did the same thing to his wife when he met Nikki. He only followed one person. He only served one Master.
I think that the trip to North Carolina for 6 weeks was a mission to regain control of her husband. Lauren said that he was distant with his wife weeks if not months before she left. A conflict with his family would give her the control back. And being pregnant with the 2 girls while selling that crap was probably too taxing for her. I personally believe that she was sick. And while in NC, her migraines were constant because of the weather and the stress.
I agree that she was a very confrontational person. You mix that with feeling powerless and feeling unwell and she probably exploded.
I give the benefit of the doubt to the Watts because I have heard testimonies from several people who know them, and I see no reason for them to lie. If they had been interviewed, we might have a better idea. It is ridiculous to think that they would have messed up the engagement party and the food. To me, it sounds like the kind of lies Shanann told Sandra who seemed to swallow everything her daughter told her; razor blades and nut chips on ice cream included. The Rzuceks idolized their daughter and frankly, she would have needed a little reality check about her financial situation. Aside from that, they seemed like good folks to me. Their daughter had a good life with Chris. I don’t think that the Watts could feel the same way knowing that Chris was bankrupted and constantly led by the nose by a demanding wife. Again, it was up to him to put a stop to it.
Chris lied through his teeth the minute he stepped out of his marriage, and it went on until he gave in and partly confessed. He was not known to lie and be dishonest before this tragedy. You would be amazed at what people will say or do if they committed crimes. It does not mean they were always dishonest before it happened.
There could have been planning. Everything is possible. There is no certainty in this story. He had met his colleague on Friday who talked on the phone about the leak at the field and this is when he offered to go. He confirmed on Sunday. I know that IQ does not mean that you would be a great criminal planner, but let’s be real, it was a bloody mess.
He knew about the neighbor’s camera. He knew his family could not have disappeared without being caught on camera. And even if Atkinson had not been so quick to report him, he was going to get caught very fast. The GPS in the truck would have led the cops to his workplace. He had left the sheet on the ground. Did not even bury it. There was hair in the opening of a tank. His truck had to be full of DNA and so was the house.
His phone call to the real estate agent and the school were madness. Nobody in their right mind would do that. He was not supposed to know his wife had disappeared. To me, it was so erratic that it sounded unplanned.
Shan’ann had loads of meds downstairs. He could have given a dose of Benadryl to the girls to make sure they would not wake up.
By the way, a big problem between Cindy and Shan’ann was the Babywise technique she used with the girls and how she was instructed to give them Benadryl every night as well as other meds when she babysat. She was not allowed to rock them in her arms. She did not say anything but did it anyway. She also thought that they slept way too much. They were always napping or in bed very early.
It does not make Shan’ann a bad person and she sure did not deserve her horrible fate, but I kind of see how she would not get along with anyone who would not agree with her OCD world.
I think that Watts’s admission of guilt was spectacular. Not one of the lawyers I have talked to has ever witnessed such a thing. He basically describes how it happened, and it is that he felt controlled by a force. He might not be eloquent, but it is a good description of being in a rage and almost watching yourself doing the unthinkable. If he cared about his reputation, he would have never admitted anything. Especially not the last confession. It took guts to tell the detectives what he did. He might have not known that it would end up on Dr. Phil, but he came clean.
The part about Shan’ann praying is probably part of his new religion he uses as a crutch. He really seems to always live outside himself. No way she was praying, and he knows it, but it is probably easier to go the religious route. The same with Kessinger. Instead of admitting that he wanted to be with her because his marriage did not work anymore, he says that she was Jezebel and use religion once again to portray her as the temptation that dragged him to hell.
I can only imagine how hard it must be to admit to oneself that you had what it took to commit such atrocious acts towards your loved ones. Especially the children. This is the part that made him cry. But the fact that he did kill these innocent girls is mind boggling. Beyond any personality disorder you can think of. That is why I tend to think that something was wrong in his brain chemistry at the time. He is a deficient human being to start with, but something created the perfect storm.
When the Colorado gang visited him in Wisconsin, they were not privy of his testing. I am very familiar with the Reid technique and it is always the same thing. It does not work on everyone though. I think that it is the humanity and lack of judgement they showed towards him that made him speak to them. It was like a group of friends showing empathy. I am sorry man. There was a lot going on in your life. And when he talked about the girls, they kept it cool and listened calmly. I don’t think that they were feeding his ego. Simply saying that he was not a monster. Just a human being. Which is basically the truth.
Personally, I think they asked lousy questions and we probably all wished we could have been there to ask the right ones. They missed an opportunity to dig deeper and to rattle him to a certain extent. I think that it was unfair to lie about keeping the interview within the department, but that’s how they work. They lie. Everybody lies. Criminals and law enforcement alike. How ironic.
You are probably familiar with Werner Herzog who did documentaries about death row. In his own type of cinéma vérité filming, he lets the truth come out by listening, being detached and an observer. When accused of treating killers as if they were human, he replied, ‘No, I do not treat them as human, they are human beings. The crimes are monstrous, but the perpetrators are always human beings.
Did not mean to write a book here. I appreciate the exchange. I respect your opinion based on serious thinking and not on emotions.
– I’m not saying that he was bragging, but a lot of people don’t even know what their IQ is. In my personal experience, those who do – and if it’s high – it’s almost always a big part of their self identity. However they may present the information to you. Given that he didn’t seem to seek out intellectual circles (who may have challenged him and kept him in check), it may especially be a source of arrogance for him. I’m not saying that he’s definitely arrogant, only that there are certainly factors in place that could point to that he may be.
– I didn’t think he looked stressed or unwell in his interview personally. There were times where it appeared he was trying to mask a smirk. His lips were upturning. He didn’t emote in a very expressive way, but you could pick up on it subtly. In the video where Shanann announced her last pregnancy, he’s very clearly (yet subtly) grimacing as he looks at the pregnancy test he’s holding. His teeth are clenched. If he honestly, justifiably hated Shanann so much this might be one thing, but what bothers me is that he’s seemingly trying to mask a smirk after killing his innocent daughters whom he supposedly loved so much too. It calls that into question in my mind. It makes me wonder to what extent he was simply playing house. Beyond the potential smirk, there’s the calm after the murders as well.
– If there weren’t deep seeded resentment playing a part in his fuse – whether he was fully aware of it and planned the explosion or not – I’m not sure what his defense would even be. And deep seeded makes me think that there were problems before Shanann. A lot of men go on to resent their partners (or women generally) because of dysfunction they learned in their childhoods with their mothers. I have a hard time believing that Shanann was completely out of line in her accusations towards Cindy and in finding her toxic to whatever degree. If this were about Shanann alone, it is interesting that Nichol so quickly became Jezebel in his mind after he put her on a pedestal.
– I’ve never been a fan of Dr. Phil either, but it’s sometimes worth watching imo to see what those he interviews have to say. I take how they may be being guided with a grain of salt.
– His actions ended in something heinous. Was he motivated all those years by integrity, or gold stars, pats on the back, and image?
– I don’t know if Chris was that stressed out about their financial situation. Shanann handled the finances completely, and he may have been attracted to her in the first place because she had that big house to herself in North Carolina. He may have been looking for a new mother figure to take care of him, and he may have continued to do so had he not been caught. He isn’t just a “nice” guy with a high IQ anymore, now he’s upgraded the chin strap to an enviable beard, and he’s got a buff bod. He could have probably found someone else to take control in that department, and he may have known it.
– It’s not ridiculous to me that the Watts women could have been petty in things that aren’t easily proven. I’ve known a lot of passive aggressive people, and those situations are their bread and butter.
– The GPS leading cops to his workplace would only be an issue if he were a suspect. Otherwise it would just look like he was going to work (and could still appear that way even if he were a suspect). I agree that the hair and blanket were sloppy, but maybe he never thought they’d check the oil tanks in the first place (he told them where the bodies were when he confessed, and they repeatedly asked for confirmation, as trying to find them there would be a huge hassle). As for the blanket, idk. I’ve wondered if he were planning on placing her in an oil tank too, before he realized how hard it was to fit even small bodies into them. Her burial could have been a last minute change of plan he was hoping to have more time to find a solution for. There could have been some panic. DNA in the house and in the car wouldn’t mean anything as they were family and shared those spaces.
– The phone calls wouldn’t necessarily be proof that he knew his wife had disappeared.
– I agree that Shanann being OCD could have created it’s own problems. I don’t tend to get along fantastically with these personalities myself.
– A criticism against it being an uncontrolled rage is how controlled the murders were. Crimes of passion tend to be more violent. Even if he were overcome by rage, he still appeared to be in a state of mind where he could stop, and he didn’t. He recalls that she didn’t fight back. He was present.
– I see the religion as a way for him to quickly forgive himself and manipulate others into doing the same (apparently he’s been preaching behind bars), but that doesn’t mean it definitely is.
– He was triggered. We all have our triggers, but a narcissist will try to end you over being triggered. It may have been a perfect storm, but most people don’t weather one that way.
– Even if he does have a cluster B disorder, those people are still human too, yea. And it’s all a spectrum.
– I appreciate the exchange too! It’s nice to share thoughts in a civil way.
Thanks for the comment. It is indeed very nice to exchange in a civil manner.
I do not want to sound redundant so I won’t answer the points we already discussed. They were well taken.
But about the DNA in the truck: Chris was not allowed to have anyone in his work truck or to drive anywhere else than from home to work and back. Unless he made quick stops at the store or the bathroom. He had to ask permission for any other itinerary. It was against company policy. He would stop at home to take the Lexus if he had to pick up the kids. Shanann never sat in it. His family was never in the truck. The girls were never in a car without car seats anyway.
He could not dispose of his family anywhere else than at the oil field because his GPS registered his every move. That’s how they found him out so fast. They had a drone flying over the field that spotted the sheet. He was cooked before his confession. They knew that he had stopped at a garbage bin on his way home because of the GPS.
Chris mentioned that, as it usually happens, Shanann had soiled herself after he strangled her. He put that sheet in the kitchen bin, but I am sure that there were signs on the mattress. Even if Atkinson had not been so fast at calling the cops and he had got rid of the soiled sheet, there would have been remnants of the fluids in that bin or on the bed.
The truck would have had fluids and DNA from his wife on the seat or the floorboard. The sheet she was in was bloody and dirty from being in the field but it had been in the truck. The same thing goes for his girls and their blankets. If they were smothered, the same thing would have happened. Cece had a diaper but not Bella. They would have found hair, blanket fibers, etc.
The tanks or a burial were his only option. He could not drive anywhere else with them because of the GPS. Plus, he did not have much time because his crew was coming. The rim of the tanks had hairs.
No way the cops would not have checked his alibi or gone to the field. Especially when they knew that he was separating from his wife and he said that she walked out with the girls without being seen on camera. They would have checked the neighbor’s camera right away which clearly showed him dragging things to the car. Who takes 30 minutes to load his truck?
It is gruesome but factual. He had no way out once he killed them.
About the doll, I am pasting what made me hesitate to mention it in the blog. ”The doll photo is revisited later in the nearly 2,000 pages of discovery documents, which were published by the Denver Post. Included in the documents is the report of a “Phone Data Review” performed by the Greeley Police Department, in which investigators scanned the data from the smartphones of Chris Watts, Shanann Watts, and Chris’s girlfriend Nichol Kessinger. The report highlights text communications, voice calls, and the internet search histories of each phone.
The Phone Data Review includes an image of a doll covered by a sheet, which appears to be the same image referenced by Ronnie Watts. According to the report, the image was taken from Chris’s phone and he sent it to Shanann on August 9. She replied, “Don’t know what to think about this.”
The time stamp on the text message would suggest that Chris was at work when he sent Shanann the message.”
As Shanann constantly used his phone to send stuff and post it, I went with what the friend said about Chris not being the one who took the photo.
Could be wrong but it is not possible to prove either way.
To Michelle: Thank you for this incredibly thoughtful and thought provoking post.
Quite an analysis. This case was mind-boggling to me at first sight, but you provide many data in a very organized fashion to make it much more intelligible. The depressing effect comes from the thought that the justice system and security forces did not seem to put half of your effort in the direction of exposing facts and explaining situations.
Yes, it is quite a let down when we see the authorities wanting a fast outcome to a case without analyzing any data or considering the human aspect. Guilty! And lets apply the worst punishment possible.